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Re: [CQ-Contest] Red Card vs Yellow Card

To: "'Yuri'" <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Red Card vs Yellow Card
From: "Braco OE1EMS" <oe1ems@emssolutions.at>
Reply-to: oe1ems@emssolutions.at
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:26:21 +0200
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Yuri,

i dont know about RU1A case, but if they get YC there must be a reason for
it!

It is in charge of CC to decide YR or RC, but there must be same standard
for everyone,
double standards are not good at all!

We saw in few last years there was plenty of RC and YC, missing scores etc.
and
there was no detail explanation about it.

It is in interest of whole contest community and CC as well  to get more
information
to competitors and it is good time to think about being even more
transparent.

73s
Braco




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von
Yuri
Gesendet: Dienstag, 09. April 2013 15:29
An: cq-contest@contesting.com
Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] Red Card vs Yellow Card

Braco,
I know about these cases.
As well, I know that Yellow and Red Cards were introduced as analogy to the
real sports (soccer).
In soccer, only the referee decides who gets yellow card and who gets red
card. Players can't make such suggestion...
My understanding is that it depends on the level of the rule violation.
In any way, if we start to play this game, by default we agree to respect
the referee's decision regardless...

There could be just a mistake, and there could be an intention.

So, I guess, 1 QSO made by the guest op and 16 QSOs fixed by team leader -
that could make a difference in the decision made by contest adjudicators.
Again, I can only speculate. I don't know all the details.

In any case, it does not look good when someone publicly appeals against the
referee decisions, and even worse - when someone publicly accuses WRTC
winners in "rubber clocking" without even knowing all the details.

That's all I wanted to say about it.

Yuri VE3DZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Braco OE1EMS" <oe1ems@emssolutions.at>
To: "'Yuri'" <ve3dz@rigexpert.net>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: 09 April, 2013 02:20
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Red Card vs Yellow Card


Yuri,

This is public info and it can be found on CQ WW home page

"Yellow Card: altering of QSO log times to conform with the 10-minute
multi-signal rule: RU1A."
"OPERATORS: RU1AA,RA1A,RW1AC,RD1A,RN1A,UU4JMG,RM2M,RA1ALZ,RU9WX,UA3RAR"

Source
www.cqww.com/results/2011_cq_ww_dx_cw_results.pdf
http://www.cqww.com/publiclogs/2011cw/ru1a.log
http://wrtc2010.ru/?id=51&idp=46
http://www.qrz.com/db/RA1A



73s
Braco

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von
Yuri
Gesendet: Montag, 08. April 2013 21:29
An: cq-contest@contesting.com
Betreff: Re: [CQ-Contest] Red Card vs Yellow Card

>>>>Some of the rubber clockers even won WRTC.

>>>73,
>>>Hrle - 9A6XX


This is a VERY serious accusation.
Whoever you kept in mind, either present a solid evidence or apologize.

Yuri  VE3DZ

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