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Re: [CQ-Contest] Busted Reversed Beacon Network spots

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Busted Reversed Beacon Network spots
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 11:10:58 -0400
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The trouble with using a list like master.dta is that it only contains a fraction of the known active calls, never mind the odd birds you get in WPX. Instead, both CW Skimmer and Skimmer Server use a file of callsign *patterns* painstakingly derived by VE3NEA from 11 years of DX cluster spots. For example, a pattern like DL#@@@ (DL, any number, and any three letters) is rated as extremely common, while DR#@ and PA##@ are rated as uncommon. That *doesn't* mean that DR1A or PA33A won't be spotted, but Skimmer will want to see more repetitions before it "believes" them. I think it would be fair to say those callsigns got their fair share this weekend.

The RBN does not do any "tell me twice" test such as Mike suggests - we leave that up to the user and his/her node filter setup.


73, Pete N4ZR
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On 5/27/2013 10:08 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
RBN or skimmers decode the cw being received. Those decoded calls *May* then be compared to a database of known calls and then redistributed to the RBN. I believe RBN is configured so that it takes one or two other Skimmer stations to report the same call before sending it to the entire network.

One of the RBN guys can probably do a better job at detailing the entire process of how a spot goes from a skimmer receiver to the RBN network.

J6M was not a known call in CQ WW CW in 2011 and we were spotted just fine.

Mike W0MU

On 5/27/2013 1:07 AM, Steef wrote:
This weekend I participated the WPX with a special call sing.
And that was a big mistake.

Because the skimmers don't know the call, they spotted me with a wrong call
more times than you can believe.
So there will be a lot of stations who logged me wrong.
Also I operate assisted, and usage the RBN to work multi's.

Bud this is also proved to be impossible.
Time and time and time, the spot was nos the station calling.
When you realize that there are plenty of opp's that don't even know CW,
there must be a million busted QSO's in the logs.

It is with great pleasure that this weekend make me realize that the RBN is
now way near a humane operator.
Let alone a good operator.


73


Steef PA3S (PA33A)

http://www.contestgroup.nl

de dx freq cq/dx snr speed time
KM3T T33A 14015.6 CW CQ 7 dB 33 wpm 1330z 26 May
AA4VV T33A 14008.7 CW CQ 15 dB 32 wpm 1537z 25 May
K3MM T33A 14059.7 CW CQ 51 dB 28 wpm 1301z 25 May
K3MM T33A 14059.7 CW CQ 37 dB 29 wpm 1237z 25 May
K1TTT T33A 14059.8 CW CQ 28 dB 33 wpm 1158z 25 May
KM3T T33A 14059.7 CW CQ 20 dB 32 wpm 1156z 25 May
R4WT T33A 14059.7 CW CQ 11 dB 36 wpm 1148z 25 May
ES5PC T33A 14011.0 CW CQ 37 dB 38 wpm 1108z 25 May

F1ICS 14059.7 PA33A and no T33A ears! 1158 25 May   Netherlands
W3LPL 14059.7 T33A Heard in NH 1156 25 May   Banaba Island





TF4M PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 47 dB 33 wpm 1420z 26 May
OH6BG PA3YA 14015.5 CW CQ 34 dB 31 wpm 1417z 26 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 14015.5 CW CQ 44 dB 30 wpm 1416z 26 May
SE0X PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 14 dB 29 wpm 1412z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 38 dB 35 wpm 1408z 26 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 14015.5 CW CQ 41 dB 32 wpm 1401z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 45 dB 31 wpm 1349z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 44 dB 32 wpm 1337z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 41 dB 28 wpm 1325z 26 May
K8ND PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 8 dB 32 wpm 1323z 26 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 43 dB 32 wpm 1323z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 42 dB 32 wpm 1315z 26 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 41 dB 27 wpm 1310z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 44 dB 33 wpm 1303z 26 May
WZ7I PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 16 dB 32 wpm 1259z 26 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 43 dB 27 wpm 1259z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 44 dB 32 wpm 1250z 26 May
WZ7I PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 7 dB 33 wpm 1233z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 44 dB 30 wpm 1227z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14015.7 CW CQ 44 dB 32 wpm 1212z 26 May
OH6BG PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 40 dB 32 wpm 1210z 26 May
S52AW PA3YA 14015.6 CW CQ 14 dB 32 wpm 1205z 26 May
OH6BG PA3YA 21064.4 CW CQ 44 dB 32 wpm 1006z 26 May
OH6BG PA3YA 21006.2 CW CQ 46 dB 35 wpm 0826z 26 May
OH6BG PA3YA 14001.9 CW CQ 44 dB 31 wpm 0754z 26 May
SE0X PA3YA 14001.9 CW CQ 39 dB 35 wpm 0742z 26 May
RZ3DVP PA3YA 14001.9 CW CQ 38 dB 36 wpm 0742z 26 May
OH6BG PA3YA 14001.8 CW CQ 44 dB 28 wpm 0719z 26 May
S57AL PA3YA 7012.4 CW CQ 56 dB 31 wpm 0528z 26 May
S57AL PA3YA 7012.2 CW CQ 55 dB 32 wpm 0514z 26 May
TF4M PA3YA 14008.7 CW CQ 45 dB 33 wpm 1536z 25 May
SE0X PA3YA 14011.0 CW CQ 38 dB 26 wpm 1100z 25 May
OL5Q PA3YA 14040.2 CW CQ 31 dB 37 wpm 0956z 25 May
K1TTT PA3YA 14040.3 CW CQ 9 dB 32 wpm 0951z 25 May
SE0X PA3YA 14025.3 CW CQ 41 dB 37 wpm 0918z 25 May
SE0X PA3YA 14025.3 CW CQ 37 dB 37 wpm 0906z 25 May
OH6BG PA3YA 14025.3 CW CQ 34 dB 34 wpm 0906z 25 May
OH6BG PA3YA 14025.3 CW CQ 33 dB 34 wpm 0845z 25 May
SE0X PA3YA 14025.3 CW CQ 43 dB 31 wpm 0836z 25 May
OH6BG PA3YA 14025.2 CW CQ 37 dB 32 wpm 0831z 25 May
HA6PX PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 44 dB 31 wpm 0703z 25 May
DL2CC PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 45 dB 33 wpm 0656z 25 May
DK0TE PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 38 dB 31 wpm 0654z 25 May
EI6BT PA3YA 7019.5 CW CQ 46 dB 31 wpm 0654z 25 May
HB9DCO PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 38 dB 33 wpm 0652z 25 May
S50ARX PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 38 dB 33 wpm 0650z 25 May
ES5PC PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 39 dB 35 wpm 0649z 25 May
LA5EKA PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 24 dB 29 wpm 0647z 25 May
OL5Q PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 38 dB 33 wpm 0646z 25 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 39 dB 33 wpm 0640z 25 May
DK0TE PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 35 dB 33 wpm 0635z 25 May
OL5Q PA3YA 7019.4 CW CQ 40 dB 36 wpm 0635z 25 May
EI6BT PA3YA 7049.8 CW CQ 42 dB 29 wpm 0620z 25 May
HA6PX PA3YA 7049.7 CW CQ 44 dB 28 wpm 0559z 25 May
EI6BT PA3YA 7049.8 CW CQ 44 dB 28 wpm 0554z 25 May
HA6PX PA3YA 7039.9 CW CQ 42 dB 32 wpm 0526z 25 May
ES5PC PA3YA 7039.9 CW CQ 42 dB 31 wpm 0524z 25 May
S50ARX PA3YA 7039.9 CW CQ 47 dB 29 wpm 0517z 25 May
HA6PX PA3YA 7039.9 CW CQ 47 dB 30 wpm 0515z 25 May
HA6PX PA3YA 7039.9 CW CQ 46 dB 29 wpm 0501z 25 May
ES5PC PA3YA 7048.1 CW CQ 42 dB 33 wpm 0431z 25 May
ES5PC PA3YA 7012.2 CW CQ 50 dB 32 wpm 0321z 25 May
HA6PX PA3YA 7012.3 CW CQ 52 dB 31 wpm 0300z 25 May
DL2CC PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 33 dB 33 wpm 0230z 25 May
OL5Q PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 37 dB 33 wpm 0230z 25 May
DF7GB PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 41 dB 31 wpm 0230z 25 May
EI6BT PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 44 dB 32 wpm 0227z 25 May
F4EGZ PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 36 dB 33 wpm 0223z 25 May
S50ARX PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 37 dB 31 wpm 0221z 25 May
HB9DCO PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 33 dB 32 wpm 0216z 25 May
GW8IZR PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 41 dB 33 wpm 0216z 25 May
SV8RV PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 14 dB 32 wpm 0216z 25 May
DL2CC PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 33 dB 33 wpm 0215z 25 May
DF7GB PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 38 dB 33 wpm 0215z 25 May
DK0TE PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 35 dB 33 wpm 0213z 25 May
DL8LAS PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 43 dB 31 wpm 0209z 25 May
ES5PC PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 49 dB 31 wpm 0209z 25 May
EI6BT PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 45 dB 31 wpm 0208z 25 May
PY1NB PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 18 dB 28 wpm 0204z 25 May
W3LPL PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 36 dB 33 wpm 0204z 25 May
AA4VV PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 19 dB 33 wpm 0203z 25 May
DL2CC PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 34 dB 33 wpm 0203z 25 May
HB9DCO PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 31 dB 33 wpm 0203z 25 May
DF7GB PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 43 dB 32 wpm 0200z 25 May
F4EGZ PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 36 dB 33 wpm 0158z 25 May
G0KTN PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 40 dB 32 wpm 0158z 25 May
GW8IZR PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 45 dB 32 wpm 0158z 25 May
HA6PX PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 38 dB 33 wpm 0158z 25 May
DK0TE PA3YA 3533.1 CW CQ 36 dB 33 wpm 0158z 25 May
OL5Q PA3YA 3533.2 CW CQ 42 dB 33 wpm 0157z 25 May
PY1NB PA3YA 3515.1 CW CQ 17 dB 31 wpm 0131z 25 May
GW8IZR PA3YA 3515.0 CW CQ 41 dB 29 wpm 0131z 25 May
W4KKN PA3YA 3515.0 CW CQ 17 dB 31 wpm 0131z 25 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 3515.0 CW CQ 45 dB 31 wpm 0128z 25 May
EI6BT PA3YA 3515.1 CW CQ 43 dB 30 wpm 0122z 25 May
ES5PC PA3YA 3515.0 CW CQ 48 dB 30 wpm 0111z 25 May
GW8IZR PA3YA 3515.0 CW CQ 43 dB 31 wpm 0110z 25 May
DL8LAS PA3YA 3515.0 CW CQ 40 dB 28 wpm 0110z 25 May
EI6IZ PA3YA 3515.0 CW CQ 44 dB 29 wpm 0108z 25 May
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