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Re: [CQ-Contest] Too Much 'Assistance'?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Too Much 'Assistance'?
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2014 06:40:20 -0500
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I'm not sure I fully understand, Tony, but it seems to me that all of these instances involve a station using the Internet to inform everyone of his call and frequency. Isn't that a clearcut violation of the rules against self-spotting. Isn't that prohibition sufficient?


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On 2/20/2014 4:18 AM, Tony Brock-Fisher wrote:

In this weekend's CW contest, Skimmer and the telnet cluster were functioning at peak efficiency. I commend everyone who made it work – it is a tremendous technical achievement. Towards the end of the contest, I could watch my every dit and dah going out and being reported back to me on the cluster, from Europe, South Africa, and even India. What a rush!

==>> The important point here is that increased internet speed and geographical coverage have made it possible for a manual spot to be delivered to the 'spotee' in REAL TIME.

I realized early on in the contest that there was absolutely no reason for me to ever manually spot a station again. Skimmer would do it for me before I could click the 'spot' button in N1MM. N1MM also has this nice feature that shows you when you are spotted on the cluster as you run guys.

So I'm happily cruising along with my pileup, and I'm having trouble copying a station. It's probably because I never learned the code the right way, but I can also blame QRM and weak signals. The next thing I know, I see a MANUAL SPOT from the STATION WHOSE CALL I'M BUSTING!! And of course, THE SPOT GIVES ME HIS CORRECT CALLSIGN!

This sure sounds like a violation of the CQWW Rule that says:

8. All requests for contacts, responses to calls, and copying of call signs and contest exchanges must be accomplished during the contest period using the mode and frequencies of the contest.

The situation for ARRL is more indirect, and some may claim that a loophole exists. See the General Rules:

3.2.All callsigns and exchange information must be sent, received, acknowledged and logged correctly by each station for a complete QSO.

3.10 The use of non-Amateur Radio means of communication (for example, Internet or telephone) to solicit a contact (or contacts) during the contest period is not permitted. 3.14. In contests where spotting nets are permissible, spotting your own station or requesting another station to spot you is not permitted.

Both rules were written before the internet speed and coverage made this new technique possible. Therefore they didn't anticipate this happening. The environment has changed - therefore it's time to either change the rules, or change the environment.

What was the original intent of the 'Assisted' Category – to allow operators to use outside assistance to find stations to work, with QSOs then to be completed in the traditional manner; or was it intended that the outside assistance aid them in completing the QSO as well, by providing callsign correction?

I would argue that manually spotting stations, as a means of assisting them in correctly copying your own callsign, is a violation of at least the spirit and intent of the above ARRL rules, if not the letter.

So we have a new genie which has been let out of the bottle!

1. No one needs to manually spot anything anymore.
2. Manual spots are passed to the other operator by some logging programs
3. Manually spotting a station provides them with YOUR correct callsign, in REAL TIME.


In the old days, I would appreciate the manual spots, and I would think the spotting station is trying to do me a favor. Now I am not so sure. I don't want to accuse stations employing this practice of cheating. However, I will point out that over the 48 hour contest, K1KP was manually spotted about a dozen times. In EVERY CASE, IT WAS WITHIN A MINUTE OR TWO OF WORKING THAT STATION. I was NEVER spotted when I wasn't about to or had just worked the spotting station!



I see three ways to use manual spots to cheat:

1. K1KP is working a pileup and a PW station is trying to work me. They manually spot me before I hear them to let me know I should listen for them. (wink, wink). It's possible to work a station that spotted you without ever hearing their call in the pileup! 2. K1KP is in the process of working a station and badly busting the call. Instead of slowing down so I can count the dits, the other station spots me. I get the spot in under a second, and all of a sudden I can copy code again! (wink, wink). 3. K1KP copies the call wrong and logs it incorrectly, then moves on in the pile. The station worked spots me, I see the correct call, and go back and correct it in my log to avoid the penalty. [Yes, this actually happened, but no I did not correct my log. I copied the call wrong, and I deserve the penalty. I am not a cheater, so I will accept my shortcomings].


Some will say:

-It's not really cheating.
-We've always been able to use spots to check callsigns
-There are always going to be cheaters. Get over it.
-We can't stop it and we don't really care. Its only a hobby.

I say we need to take a stand and at least make an effort to address this issue, to preserve the integrity of the sport.

The solutions can be very simple – here are some suggestions, there may be others:

1. Ban all manual spots during the contest.
2. Change manual spots so only the prefix or country of origin are shown, not the complete call. 3. Or the best solution, delay all manual spots by 5 minutes so the above practices become impractical.

The telnet cluster and internet backbone have become so efficient that a new means of 'obtaining unethical assistance' is possible. We need to stop this practice, either by changing the rules, or changing the way the telnet clusters work.



Or,

Let's have an internet-only contest. Any form of using radio to make a contact will be declared as cheating!

Respectfully wearing Nomex,

Tony, K1KP

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