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Re: [CQ-Contest] Establishing a contest within a contest

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Establishing a contest within a contest
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:30:07 -0500
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Randy and I discussed the Classic overlay before it was announced. Alas, theCQ committee failed to to go the whole way and make the 24-hour limitation the *only* change from full-fledged. I still fail to understand why Classic entrants should not be able to operate Assisted, or SO2R. If necessary, make them sub-categories. Us OFs will thank you!

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/13/2015 3:07 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
The CQ WW CLASSIC Overlay category is a great example of a contest within a
contest.  There is certainly room for more Overlay options provided they
will increase both activity and enjoyment.

The IARU HF Championship serves as a platform for the WRTC competition.  As
long as the CWAC is not working against the 'platform contest', there is no
limit to the additional options for competition that may be created.

The public CQ WW logs provide a very clean and substantial data set for
anyone that wants to take on the programming task for creating their own
CWAC.

Randy, K5ZD


-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Pete Smith N4ZR
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 3:25 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com; Martin Durham
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Establishing a contest within a contest

How much difference a decade makes!  Whenseveral of us suggested that we
implement a CWAC to try out a 24-hour category within CQWW, Bob Cox
angrily rejected the idea, saying that not a single QSO in a single CQWW
log would ever be released.

How far we've come since! Now, if only the ARRL would adopt the open logs
concept, followed perhaps by the Russians and Germans, we'd have an ample
playing field for all sorts of experiments.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/13/2015 2:45 AM, James Latham wrote:
" I will gently point out that nothing prevents you from doing that as
a Contest Within A Contest right now.  As long as the contacts are
valid under the CQ WW rules, you can score them any way you like and
publish the results according to any criteria you can imagine.  If
enough people care about the results of the CWAC, it will become
popular.  If they don't, it won't.  The CQ WW will benefit from the
activity and you will benefit from having tried something interesting
and new.  Go for it!
73, Ward N0AX"

I think N0AX is spot on with his suggestion. Just set up a contest
within a contest and test your ideas out, if your new contest works
you will have a big start in establishing it as a free standing
contest.
73,  Jim   KP2XX
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