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To: Ricardo Navarrete <ricardoea4zk@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] cqcontest.net
From: "ve4xt@mymts.net" <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2016 14:04:54 -0500
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Assisted is not defined as below in the rules of most contests. It is defined 
as receiving, through any means other than finding the station yourself while 
tuning, SPECIFIC information about callsigns and frequencies.

WW goes one step further and places those who use a local, single-channel CW 
decoder into the assisted category (so if you need an MFJ CW reader to copy 
stations, you're assisted, even if you don't use spots), but most contests 
limit the definition to Skimmer, Cluster, local nets and operating arrangements 
with other operators (OK Jim, when I find a new mult, I'll send you a text).

No definition I have found makes any reference to watching space-weather sites 
for solar info, listening to space-weather data on WWV, watching real-time 
scoreboards, watching live video from other stations or watching a second 
radio's bandscope to see when a band opens. They are clear it's only assistance 
when it can take you DIRECTLY to where the station is.

Many of you might wish they did, and you might be right in wishing so. But they 
don't. And there's little reason to think it's at all unsafe to follow the 
letter of rules as published.

Once again, however, opinions (even mine) aren't the deciding authority. Get a 
ruling from the sponsor and follow it. There's no need to restrict yourself any 
more than the sponsor requires.

73, kelly
ve4xt

ps. A real-time scoreboard or live video that shows exact frequencies of the 
stations displayed would fall into "included but not limited to" and would 
constitute assistance. But until the organizers change the wording, a real-time 
scoreboard that shows nothing more than K9YC is somewhere on 20, or somewhere 
on 15, is really little different from your own second radio's bandscope 
showing that band is really hot, and does not constitute assistance.





Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 3, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Ricardo Navarrete <ricardoea4zk@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi braco and all....
> If we interpret the bases strictly you are right, posting your score on
> cqcontest web site could be interpreted as assisted , but how many
> contesters watch Web based clusters and send their lists as
> non-assited?????.
> 
> My two cents....
> El 3/4/2016 12:18, "Braco OE1EMS" <oe1ems@emssolutions.at> escribió:
> 
>> Hello to everyone,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> i would like to hear opinion of community
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Does use (wathching or watching and posting) of www.cqcontest .net web site
>> made single operator as assisted or not?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Since I have be warned in last WPX that monitoring competitors and their
>> band changes (without knowing  their freq and spotter)
>> 
>> could be  assisted, because it can give me idea which bands are open,  I
>> wonder my self is it same with this WEB Site providing same info,
>> 
>> watching to it, its possible to find out on which band are people
>> generating
>> QSOs!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73s
>> 
>> Braco
>> 
>> E77DX
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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