CQ-Contest
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [CQ-Contest] New hamvention location

To: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] New hamvention location
From: "ve4xt@mymts.net" <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 09:57:48 -0400
List-post: <cq-contest@contesting.com">mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Hi Rudy,

With utmost respect, I don't understand your sentiment.

You're offended Dayton is reduced to county fair status, but you weren't 
offended when it spent most of its life reduced to a sewage-infused fifth-tier 
hockey game?

I remember walking up to Hara for the first time quite disillusioned: the most 
important (at the time) ham radio gathering in the world is at a shit-hole like 
this? Seriously? That was 23 years ago.

And then I went on to have the time of my life.

Not sure the need to prejudge the new location.

And, I think the variety of comments here (move it to Vegas! Move it to Cinci! 
Move it to Columbus!, etc.) is a pretty good indication, aside from time being 
a major consideration, as to why DARA kept the consideration of a new facility 
in house. I'm sure the last thing they needed was the analysis paralysis that 
opening it up to a public forum would generate. 

It's the event that makes the event. Not the location.

73, kelly, ve4xt 

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 2, 2016, at 5:35 AM, Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest 
> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> 
> See, the thing is that DARA never reached out us the ham community to seek 
> help in finding a solution. They kept the transition a secret. For the very 
> reason you pointed out- Dayton being the largest ham event in the world- you 
> seek help when the event is in trouble.
> 
> I would've gladly contributed in whatever way I can to retain Dayton's 
> status. I bet many others would do the same just like for WRTC2014. We don't 
> need a glitzy venue, but do need an appropriate venue and location.
> 
> So, yes, I wish them all the best with the new venue. Really want them to 
> preserve the spirit of Dayton.  But in 2017, I will be flying to Germany, not 
> the Midwest as I don't wish to contribute to ham radio being diminished to a 
> county fair.
> 
> Rudy N2WQ
> 
> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
> autocorrect.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2016, at 1:47 AM, Radio KØHB <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Rudy, DARA has been staging the Dayton Hamvention since 1952.  It’s a local 
>> ham club, not a professional “event coordinator”.  A bunch of volunteers in 
>> a small Midwestern city, without a big glitzy “convention center”, without 
>> professional convention organizers, without a huge hotel room inventory, and 
>> burdened with a poor physical facility, have managed to keep the Hamvention 
>> (the largest ham gathering in the world) going for all of these years.
>> 
>> So now they’ve hit a rough spot in the road, losing their facility (such as 
>> it was), and have scrambled to replace it and keep the event alive. 
>> 
>> Since there is no other “DARA” out there volunteering to stand up a new 
>> organization in a better location, how about the ham community quit their 
>> cheap sniping from the sidelines, wish the boys and girls of DARA good luck 
>> in their transition, and make their reservations for next May.
>> 
>> That’s what I am doing.
>> 
>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>> 
>> From: Rudy Bakalov
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 4:53 AM
>> To: Radio K0HB
>> Cc: CQ-Contest
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] New hamvention location
>> 
>> Maybe I have been taking Dayton too seriously and wrongly compared it to 
>> other key ham radio events around the world, such as Friedrichshafen and 
>> Tokyo.  As such, right or wrong, I expect certain set of attributes, one of 
>> them being location.  Location is more than just the town/city, but also the 
>> actual venue.
>> 
>> Further, I have always considered Dayton the mother of all ham radio events 
>> in the USA. The Grand Prix of sorts.
>> 
>> So, yes, the thought of the Grand Prix of ham radio moved to this venue 
>> scares the heck out of me in terms of symbolism.  Makes me feel sad that ham 
>> radio is being reduced to a county fair type of event.
>> 
>> Rudy N2WQ
>> 
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
>> autocorrect.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have no idea what Rudy's post is intended to communicate..
>> 
>> Typical schedule of events at a Midwest county fair in late summer. Winners 
>> move on up to the state fair.
>> 
>> How this relates to amateur radio boys and girls is a mystery to me.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 20:15 Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Looks like this is the perfect venue. The ham schedule of events fits very 
>> nicely and complements the current schedule. The vendors will certainly feel 
>> at home. For example:
>> 
>> MONDAY, August 1
>> 8:30 a.m. Breeding and meat rabbit show
>> 9:00 a.m.-10:00 a.m. Check-in for Swine Jackpot Show
>> 9:00 a.m. Nutrition Baking Contest
>> Followed by Best o f the Bakers *AB
>> 9:00 a.m.  Turkey show
>> 10:00 a.m.  Poultry and turkey showmanship
>> 10:00 a.m. Swine jackpot Show Barn 2
>> 11:30 a.m. Sign up for General Livestock Judging Contest-Hog Barn
>> 12 Noon General Livestock Judging Contest-Cattle Barn
>> 12 Noon Free hands-on activities for youth *AB - sponsored by 4-H
>> 4:00 p.m. Lamb homegrown show 
>> 4:30-5:30 p.m. Modeling Practice 
>> 5:00 p.m. Homegrown goat show 
>> 6:00 p.m. Goat judging contest
>> 6:30 p.m. Market lamb judging - sheep barn 
>> 7:00 p.m. Market hog judging - swine barn 
>> 7:00 p.m. 4-H Clothing Fashion Revue *AB 
>> 7:00 p.m. Dairy judging contest - cattle barn 
>> 7:30 p.m. Market beef judging - cattle barn 
>> 8:00 p.m. Dairy cattle exhibitor meeting
>> 8:00 p.m. SMASH IT Demo Derby *GS 
>> 8:00 p.m. Wyatt McCubbin *EC
>> 
>> TUESDAY, August 2
>> 8:30 a.m. 4-H/FFA Dairy cattle show and showmanship
>> 8:30 a.m. Goat Showmanship followed by Dairy, Production and Market Shows
>> 9:00 a.m. English Horse Show –Horse Arena
>> 10:00 a.m. Open dairy cattle show
>> 10:00 a.m. 4/H FFA Market Hog Show
>> 12 Noon    Watermelon eating contest *EC
>> 12 Noon   Free hands-on activities for youth *AB - sponsored by 4-H
>> 2:00 p.m. Table Setting Contest *AB
>> 2:30 p.m. Breeding Sheep Showmanship, Breeding Show, Market Lamb 
>> Showmanship, Pee Wee and Adult Showmanship, Open Market Lamb Show
>> 6:00 p.m. Grab for Cash *EC
>> 7:30p.m. Granger Smith with special guest Clark Manson GS
>> 
>> Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
>> autocorrect.
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Radio KØHB <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.whio.com/news/news/officials-to-announce-big-event-coming-to-greene-c/nr77W/
>> 
>> 73, de Hans, KØHB
>> "Just a boy and his radio"™
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> CQ-Contest mailing list
>> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> CQ-Contest mailing list
> CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
_______________________________________________
CQ-Contest mailing list
CQ-Contest@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest
<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>