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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tennessee QSO Party
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:41:09 -0500
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The only cure I can see to fix this lack of higher bands is to make them worth more to the in state participant. Like double the point values. Then there are some incentives more than just the mults to try to stick it out on the higher bands.

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On 9/6/2016 12:16 PM, Joe Fischer wrote:
I can appreciate the frustration by those who wish that QSO Party in-staters 
would spend more time on the higher bands.  In the OHQP I ran for a while on 15 
in the afternoon and it was like shouting in a large empty field.  20 meters 
was a little better but I got a lot more action - and most importantly, 
multipliers - on 40 and 80.

We have a chicken and egg situation here.  It is nice to pick up contacts on 
the higher bands during the day but if few people are there, we'll go somewhere 
else.  Out-of-state people tune around the high bands but don't hear anything 
so they do something else.  And I'm not allowed to self-spot, either.

Whatcha gonna do?

As far as the /xxxx suffix, just because somebody has an 8-call, for example, 
there's a pretty good chance that they don't live in OH, MI or WV.  With the 
suffix I know whether they're in-state or out-of-state.
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TU es 73 de Joe, W8JPF

Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 15:11:37 -0700
From: Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Tennessee QSO Party 2016 - September 4
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On Mon,8/29/2016 10:05 AM, Ted Bryant wrote:
Come join us and chase the mobiles across the Tennessee hillsides throughour 95 
counties.  Action should be non-stop.
Some observations. As usual, TNQP was bolstered by several mobile
operations, some more serious than others. Working a QSO Party from
2,000 miles away is a challenge for the stations on both ends of the
path. W4NZ  and K4ZGB had the best mobile signals. N2WN and K1GU were
never very loud, but were workable on the higher bands. All had great
ears. Interestly, W4NZ and K4ZGB were workable on 40  before fixed
stations could be heard well enough to copy; ditto for K4ZGB on 80M! I
worked Tom twice on 40M and once on 80M; I made 7 QSOs with Ted on 40M,
none on 80M -- his best signal on 80M was mostly fumes. The few times I
could copy well enough to get my call and exchange, I couldn't make it
through the other callers.

Some conclusions.

First, I suspect that the lower radiation angle of those mobile antennas
helped them with propagation when the bands were just opening.

Second, most operators, including the mobiles, abandoned 20M at least
two hours before the band died (ZGB abandoned it at least an hour
earlier) and at least an hour before I could hear them on 40M. 20M was
good to TN to at least 02Z. 40M prop never died, but all the activity
moved to 80M.  I missed a dozen or so fixed stations on 40 because they
went to 80 before 40 opened to W6. I ran SO2R high power assisted with a
P3 looking at both active bands. My 40M antenna was a 2-el wire Yagi at
120 ft, with a Beverage on the 2nd RX. My 80M antenna is a 2-el wire
Yagi at 140 ft.

SO -- if you want participation from west of the Rockies, you've got to
spend time on bands with propagation to this area. I'm guessing that
missed Tom in at least 4 counties, and Ted in at least 5. And even when
I was able to work these guys on the lower band, the higher band would
have provided extra Qs (and mults) for both sides of the QSO.

A third observation. I wasn't aware that K1GU was mobile until midway
through the contest. We may have missed him in one or more counties for
that reason -- I saw spots, but thought he was at home. Jules was
signing N2WN/xxxx, but Ned was not, at least early on.

And I really wish that fixed stations would NOT sign /xxxx -- that
practice should, IMO, be limited to mobile or portable stations that
operate from more than one county.

Please take this as positive criticism, and thanks to all for a another
fun weekend!

73, Jim K9YC



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