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Re: [CQ-Contest] High power reclassification

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] High power reclassification
From: Drew Vonada-Smith <drew@whisperingwoods.org>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 11:41:26 -0500
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Igor,

 
If I can rephrase your argument, you are saying:

 
1) Congrats to RDXC that they want to catch cheaters.  

I agree.

 
2) That since no good method exists to do so, then an invalid method is OK.

i don't agree.  Not even a little.  To call a man a cheater, you had better 
meet a pretty high standard.

 
3) You also say that no method is 100% reliable.

I'm sure that we all agree.  But you thereby imply that what was used was quite 
reliable, just not 100%.  This is exactly what we are all refuting.  It isn't 
reliable AT ALL, as used.  Even the people that create and maintain the tool 
say so.  When Bob offers alternative data that seems better tuned to the 
situation, it is ignored.  THAT is the issue.

 
RDXC always seems to introduce something far more suspect than that which they 
claim to be trying to address.  We call foul.

 
73,
Drew K3PA 
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: RDXC Entry Reclassified to High Power (Igor Sokolov)
   2. Re: RDXC Entry Reclassified to High Power (Jeff Kinzli N6GQ)
   3. Re: RDXC Entry Reclassified to High Power (Pete Smith N4ZR)


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Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 18:51:50 +0500
From: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] RDXC Entry Reclassified to High Power
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I am not going to be on any side of the argument. But we all know that power 
cheating exists and proliferates. It has become especially acute  after the 
introduction of the new WRTC selection rules which allowed LP category 
compete against HP for the slot in WRTC.

IMHO RDXC should be commended for pioneering the battle against power 
violations even though their attempt is not fully approved by some.

RDXC can be criticized for their approach but can critics offer other 
reliable methods of fishing out power violators. I do not think that a 100% 
reliable method exists.
Does it mean that contest community should not pay attention to power 
violations? I do not think so. Otherwise, why have different power 
categories in the rules when these rules cannot be enforced.

 The simple solution would be to drop separation by power and have all the 
participants compete in one power category.  But would such a radical step 
be to the benefit of the contest community? Would it increase participation? 
I think not.
Then why don't we as a community use this precedent and try to find a 
solution? Let's work out methods of verification of power cheating that 
would be acceptable by a majority of the participants. This will be to the 
benefit of all the contest sponsors where  power categories exist.

Disclaimer: I have no relation to RDXC committee and not competing for slot 
in WRTC. I just like the art contesting and want make better.

73, Igor UA9CDC 


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