As one of the (usually) silent observers on this reflector, hear hear. I
100% agree with this.
PJ4G, as far as I can tell from the sidelines, operated within the letter
of the law for this contest.
The "spirit" of the rule is irrelevant. You can argue about being
"gentlemanly," or "honorable" or any of that other claptrap till you're
blue in the face. They broke no rule, they have lost no "honor" and were
not "ungentlemanly" in their pursuit of victory.
Contesting is a competition. In every other form of competition in the
world, from chess to soccer (football, for our non-USA friends) to Formula
1, those who compete at the highest level will push the rulebook to the
absolute limit of the letter of the law to win.
To not take advantage of every possible opening in the rules if you wish to
win is, quite simply, folly and a recipe for losing.
I may not have the contesting chops and history that some of you have, but
I've been around the block a bit in the contesting game, and I've been
racing cars long enough to know all this.
If you don't like the "loophole" in the rule, petition the ARRL to tighten
the language in it. Or be prepared to implement the same tactics if you
want to win.
My $0.02.
73, Andy NY7N
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> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:45:31 +0000
> From: Martin Durham <W1md@W1md.net>
> To: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>, Ron Notarius W3WN
> <wn3vaw@verizon.net>, "cq-contest@contesting.com"
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> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] QSY
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> I should take the better part of (fill in your favorite adjective here)
> and not reply because this really doesn't deserve reply. But, I feel I must.
>
> First...I'm not much of an 'expert' on CQ-Contest Reflector...I don't
> contribute thousands of Posts like you do Mike...so I'm a neophyte when it
> comes to 'reflector discussion'.
>
> HOWEVER, I do think I have a little bit of expertise when it comes to
> contesting...I've been contesting since 1980 (first field day as a novice)
> and KA1EEF (scored 14th in the world for CQWW SSB QRP...Licensed in March
> 1980) and have put up literally hundereds of millions of points in ARRL/CQ
> and other contests (most as a member of a multi-op...NB1H my first Extra
> Call, then W1MD and this host of other stations/calls, K1ST, K1AR, K1EA,
> KC1XX, NQ4I, K8AZ, K1XX, V26, VP5, J38, PJ2, and PJ4 come to mind). 538,
> 852, 302 points as part of Multi-op's and my own single op's just since
> 2002 (That equates to 'just a few' hours behind the wheel...so I think I
> have some authority to talk) Half a billion points since 2002. Oh, the J38X
> operation was a 2man M/M...we didn't bother with the M/2 band change rules.
>
> The PJ4G team needs no defense because they did nothing wrong. They
> operated within the RULES...PERIOD. That someone made a recording and chose
> to 'stir the pot' on this reflector is a totally different subject.
>
> They don't need to provide a 'written' statement...IT WAS WITHIN THE rules.
>
> There have been many wins from the PJ4G station...in both CQWW and ARRL.
> That station is well designed and many well known contesters have operated
> from that location.
>
> THE OPERATION FOLLOWED the RULES. Period, end of discussion. NOW...you
> want to discuss changing the rules...go ahead.
>
> As for your ad-hominem attack on NA2AA...why? Is that the level you have
> to stoop to? I understand NA2AA's frustration. What special software?? He
> wrote a Duping program before most people were USING software, and then a
> logging program...there is a problem with that??
>
> There are a 'group' on this reflector that talk as if they are on Mt.
> Olympus, preaching down to the rest of us 'lowly' contestors as if we don't
> know what we're talking about. See above...1/2 Billion points contributed
> to contest scores since 2002.
>
> You and a few others talk a lot here on the reflector...and pontificate as
> to what is right, what is not right and who should be able to do what. How
> about your experience?? I've worked on stations from my current home
> station (K3/AL-80B/DX-88/HF-2V) that has scored over 1million points in
> CQWW CW to stations like K8AZ, NQ4I, NB1H/K1ST for large M/M operations in
> the US. I regularly 'setup' the PJ4X station (we have to build the station
> inside and take it apart every contest...radios/switching/amp's/computer
> network/), did a field day setup at J38X and V26...you get the picture (or
> maybe you don't).
>
> Now, I see you have been in a few contests as well since 2004...about 25
> Million points worth or maybe 1/20 the operating I've done...
>
> It's you and your ilk that keep a lot of folks OFF the reflector...or
> 'lurking' as readers and not contributors.
>
> No ill will intended, but get your facts straight...
>
> 73,
>
> W1MD
>
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