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Re: [CQ-Contest] Attention CQWW SO2R Competitors

To: Michael Adams <mda@n1en.org>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Attention CQWW SO2R Competitors
From: "Jorge Diez (CX6VM-CW5W)" <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:46:15 -0300
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I never heard my TX audio when doing SO2R, but I think they want to hear in the 
audio file, what I am transmitting, easy to understand 

73,
Jorge

Enviado desde mi iPhone

> El 28 jun. 2017, a las 17:06, Michael Adams <mda@n1en.org> escribió:
> 
> It might be helpful if, when considering changing the rule, the rule-makers 
> considered what it is that they're trying to accomplish with the recordings.
> 
> The current rule states that a recording must capture the TX and RX audio _as 
> received by the operator_ (emphasis added).
> 
> Under certain conditions / a certain style of SO2R operating, the operator 
> won't necessarily hear their TX audio; they may be sending on one radio while 
> listening to the other with both ears.  Under the current rule, the TX audio 
> will therefore not always be present in the recording.
> 
> The current rule has the nice feature of only requiring splitting the 
> SO2R-audio-to-headphones line to connect a recorder.  Relatively easy.
> 
> An alternative rule would be to require a recording of the RX/TX audio from 
> each radio.  This has the advantage of making it clear what is being 
> heard/sent on each radio through the contest, but it isn't necessarily 
> indicative of what the operator is hearing.  This should also be relatively 
> easy to accomplish, although the details may vary somewhat in different 
> stations, and you're probably going to need an extra recorder.
> 
> It sounds like Steve's suggesting that there could be a rule change saying 
> that you need a recording containing both what the operator hears, and the TX 
> audio even when not heard by the operator.  If I'm not mistaken, that will 
> require some new audio switching hardware/software to facilitate the 
> recording, or some operators will be obliged to change their preferred style 
> of audio-switching.  The former doesn't seem appropriate, at least not 
> without a significant amount of advance warning; and the latter seems to 
> inappropriately infringe on choice of operating strategy.
> 
> If the committee believes that they need recordings of what the operator 
> hears and TX audio, it'd be much simpler (albeit more cumbersome) to accept 
> three recordings from an SO2R entrant:  headphone audio, radio 1 (with 
> monitor) audio, and radio 2 (with monitor) audio.
> 
> -- 
> Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jorge Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Wednesday, 28 June, 2017 13:18
> To: n2ic@arrl.net
> Cc: kr2q@optimum.net; Bob Naumann <w5ov@w5ov.com>; cq Contest 
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>; w4pa >> Scott Robbins <w4pa@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Attention CQWW SO2R Competitors
> 
> Steve
> 
> actually the transmitted signal must be present on the recording
> 
> *C. Audio Recordings:* Any single operator entrant (see V.A.1) competing for 
> a top three finish at the (a) World, (b) Continent, or (c) USA levels, must 
> record the transmitted and received audio as heard by the operator for the 
> duration of the contest operation.
> 
> So if will be a change would be nice to know about that, many people working 
> on this, big companies like Elecfart are working on a firmware to improve 
> that and make it easy for the simple operator to do the recording that cqww 
> cc ask for
> 
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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