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Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 22:31:49 -0500
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I laugh at this!
I too can not believe when people say they can not remember when they got their first license.

Not only do I remember it, I remember every detail OF IT!

Year, 1975

Month, September

Day, Wednesday the 24th

It was 1 PM or so, +/- a hour. For that was the window of time that the mailman always arrived at our house.

It was a cold wet and rainy day. I was home sick with a terrible cold from school.

The mailman dropped off some mail and I went to look hoping for some more SWL QSL Cards. I was a avid SWLer.

Then I saw this UGLY beat up thing from the FCC, and my life has not been the same since!

Joe WB9SBD
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On 10/20/2017 4:21 PM, jamesdavidcain@gmail.com wrote:
Someday, children, when you grow up, you will be proud of the year you were 
first licensed, and thrilled that you can actually remember it.

K1TN (CK 61)


-----Original Message-----
From: Ria Jairam [mailto:rjairam@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 4:24 PM
To: Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Cc: Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com>; James Cain <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com>; CQ 
contest reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"

It also sounds like the check can be either the operator or the station.

4.4.1. The last 2 digits of the year of first license for either the
operator or the station.
73
Ria, N2RJ


On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:
The difficulty with being obstinate about following rules to the letter is 
situations vary and rules are often vague. The check is certainly in that 
category.

If you are a guest op, is it YOUR year of first licence or your
host’s? If you’re using his callsign, using your check muddles
matters. If it’s a multiop, whose check? If you were to follow the
rules to the letter, you might have each op giving out his own check
(it’s not exactly clear when all it says is “the year you were first
licensed.”)

Further: the rules also state quite clearly “the decisions of the ARRL
are final.” The ARRL has decided it will not enforce checks (pretty
hard to do, anyway). (Which is not the same as saying you get away
with miscopying a check, merely the League will take no steps to
determine if VE4XT really was first licensed in 1982. (I was.))

So, if you’re obstinate about following rules and the rules say the ARRL 
decisions are final, then you must accept there is some deliberate vagueness to the 
rule and stop worrying about it.

73, kelly, ve4xt



On Oct 20, 2017, at 9:05 AM, Michael Clarson <wv2zow@gmail.com> wrote:

Have to agree with James. Rules pretty clear on what the exchange is.
Check is"year first licensed", not some two digit number I made up to
change things up. --Mike, WV2ZOW

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 8:23 AM,  <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com> wrote:
Lessee, now. This discussion began concerning the ARRL Sweepstakes
contest(s).

Seems to me that a legitimate entry must follow the rules for the
exchange, and those rules are specific. I don't see where any of the
exchange elements can be fudged, or "negotiated."

If you don't plan to submit your SS log you can fudge anything you
want -- except your call sign. But that's not playing fair.

K1TN


4.1. A consecutive serial number;

4.2. Precedence;

4.2.1. "Q" for Single Op QRP (5 Watts output or less);

4.2.2. "A" for Single Op Low Power (up to 150 W output);

4.2.3. "B" for Single Op High Power (greater than 150 W output);

4.2.4. "U" for Single Op Unlimited Single-Op Unlimited High Power
and Single-Op Unlimited Low Power both send "U")

4.2.5. "M" for Multi-Op (Multiop High Power and Multiop Low Power
both send
"M")

4.2.6. "S" for School Club;

4.3. Your Callsign (remember that you must include your call sign
during the
exchange)

4.4. Check

4.4.1. The last 2 digits of the year of first license for either the
operator or the station.

4.4.2. An entry must send the same Check throughout the entire contest.

4.5. ARRL/RAC Section (click here for the official list
<http://www.arrl.org/contest-sections-list> )



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I've been meaning to change things up anyway, just to keep them on
their toes.

73
Ria, N2RJ
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:31 PM Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com> wrote:

When I saw the post about Call History Files for SS, and then saw
the post for the site where you can get them, I was tempted to put
in some bogus data -- change CK 60 to CK 69; change name Art to
name Ari.  But I'm not quite that cranky.  Yet.

73, Art K3KU

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Radio K0HB <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:

Where possible, I routinely "update" my exchange from the last
contest, just to confound those who use "pre-loaded" data file crutches.

73, de Hans, K0HB


-----Original Message----- From: Art Boyars
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:01 PM
To: CQ-Contest Reflector
Subject: [CQ-Contest] "It's just to save on typing"

E-mail chatting with N4ZR, who has relocated from WV to MD.  Pete
muses that a lot of people who rely on SCP or Call History (or
whatever it is) "to save on typing" will bust the QSO by logging him as WV.

I can see it now -- a cry for making the data files official;
perhaps prohibiting people from relocating or using a different name.

"All participants must register in the official Call History File.
Your log must contain the data as reported in that File.  Scoring
will be in accordance with that File."

Just think of all the typing we'll save!

73, Art K3KU
who hopes you took this in fun (sort of)
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