I am not sure why people get hung up on the order of home call sign
and prefix, which as Ron says is required by the treaty, but then don't
bother to follow the rest of what the treaty requires. Here is a link
<http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/vwapj/1952-7E.PDF/$FILE/1952-7E.PDF>
The treaty also requires that for phone you are to replace the / with
the appropriate word where your choices are "fixed", "portable" or
"mobile," and that "Each amateur station shall indicate at least once
during each contact with another station its geographical location as
nearly as possible by city and state or city and province."
Strict compliance with the treaty requires sending the city and province
or city and state for every QSO. It seems to me that leaving out the city
and province is a more important violation than the technical violation
of putting the prefix on the opposite end of the callsign, since both the
USA and Canada accept this structure for other reciprocal privileges.
For that matter, since neither government requires the city, and state
or province to be transmitted for every contact for other reciprocal
operations, such as CEPT, it seems unlikely that any of this would be
enforced by either of the governments of our countries, which have been
friends for so long. This long term friendship is, of course, why we
had this treaty so many decades ago.
73 Kevin w9cf
On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 02:02:55PM -0400, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
> Except, Charles, the 1953 reciprocal treaty with Canada specifies that US
> amateurs operating Canada & Canadian amateurs operating in the US MUST sign
> call/portable designator.
>
> That has nothing to do with what the ARRL says. That's what the treaty
> says.
>
> And that IS old practice, since back in the day, that is the way most if not
> all stations operating portable in another jurisdiction signed. Signing
> prefix/call as is now accepted is a relatively modern practice.
>
> I'm not sure where the comment about the DXCC or LotW records come from. As
> far as I know, DXCC goes by the portable designator regardless of whether
> it's before or after the call. Logbook of the World accepts the log as
> inputted by the user. So if I were to, say, upload HS/K4VUD, and you were
> to upload as K4VUD/HS, I would not expect them to automatically match.
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
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