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Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards

To: "'Martin, LU5DX'" <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards
From: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
Reply-to: k5zd@charter.net
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 20:15:20 -0500
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
While it may be technically possible, there is no motivation for scoreboard 
developers/providers to limit access to their site. They want people to see the 
scores. Remember my example of allowing multi-op operators to follow the 
progress from home when they take a break.

The decision to contribute scores is made by each station/operator.  It is not 
mandatory (nor likely to ever be).  It either adds to your enjoyment of 
contesting or it doesn't.  There really is no harm.

Randy K5ZD

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Martin,
> LU5DX
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 1:28 PM
> To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
> Cc: n2ic@arrl.net; Juan Hidalgo EA8RM <ea8cac@gmail.com>; cq-
> contest@contesting.com; Jim George <n3bb@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Online Scoreboards
> 
> It should be fairly easy to implement.
> 
> 73,
> Martin LU5DX
> 
> El jue., 22 nov. 2018 2:13 p. m., Joe <nss@mwt.net> escribió:
> 
> > I mentioned to one of the scoreboard ummm  "Managers"? Can we make it
> > that while the contest is running, the only people that can see it are
> > those pushing their scores to it?
> >
> > Haven't heard an answer yet if possible.
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> > Sig
> > The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> > Idle Tyme
> > Idle-Tyme.com
> > http://www.idle-tyme.com
> > On 11/22/2018 6:04 AM, Jim George wrote:
> > > Agree with EA8RM, N2IC, and others. Many issues:
> > >
> > > 1. Personally, I have no Internet in the radio shack. So it's
> > > impossible for me to meet a Real Time Scoreboard or have Internet
> access.
> > > 2. I agree with Steve that to have this info while others don't is
> > > unfair. Some might not post by strategy, while using the info from
> > > others to an advantage.
> > > 3. The 3830 site has lots and lots of post-contest data.
> > > 4. Some remote DX locations do not have Internet access ... period.
> > >
> > > 5. I suppose "The Internet Changes Everything" capability will at
> > > some time, and in some form, demand some "real time" scoring. I
> > > agree that it's sort of strange, as K5ZD noted, to sit there alone
> > > and work hard for a long period and not have any indication of
> > > relative standing, etc. So for those for whom that's imperative, let
> > > there be such a category. Call it "Active Scoreboard," or akin to
> > > that, and the operator can be either  "Assisted" or "Non-Assisted"
> > > based on his/her (morals and) preference. But don't make this
> > > mandatory. For me, if Real-Time Scoreboard is absolutely required
> > > for participation, the sport will lose me, for better or worse.
> > >
> > > Jim N3BB
> > >
> > > At 10:56 PM 11/21/2018 +0000, Juan Hidalgo EA8RM wrote:
> > >> Totally agree with Steve. That’s happened specially during WRTC
> > >> qualification contest. It is time to include in the rules “the
> > >> station must publish score during the contest† so less hopping
> > >> categories after the contest. Today it is no problem to connect
> > >> internet from anywhere in the world like 20 years ago, it is time
> > >> to do some more changes. Regards. 73 de EA8RM /  EF8R EF8U Manager
> > >> Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 20 nov 2018, a las 20:49, Steve London
> > >> <n2icarrl@gmail.com> escribió: > > The problem with the online
> > >> scoreboard chase is that it not balanced. After encouraging folks
> > >> to post their scores, I can choose to not post my score. Thus, I
> > >> have real-time knowledge about the competition that they don't have
> > >> about me. This is not true in any other sport. > > 73, > Steve, N2IC
> > >>
> > >> On 11/20/2018 11:50 AM, Bill via CQ-Contest wrote: >>   With contest
> > >> final results taking so long to come out, contestonlinescore.com >>
> > >> and 3830scores.com have become the defacto contest results for me.
> > >> The online >> chase is great - many thanks to Victor VA2WA and
> > >> Randy K5ZD! >> 73, Bill KO7SS in Arizona >>
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