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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 198, Issue 14
From: Drew Vonada-Smith <drew@whisperingwoods.org>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 15:10:36 +0000
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Joe,

I don't recommend that approach for FD.  The problem is, it will protect the 
front end, BUT, if signals are so strong that it kicks in, you are putting a 
diode in line with that big RX signal.  It thus is creating harmonics, which 
are reradiated, making the FD situation worse.

If your signals are so large as to overload a nearby receiver, a better radio 
or filters, or better antenna isolation (like physical separation) are your 
only options.  Some gains can be made with placement, vertical vs horizontal, 
etc.  If you are serious about multitransmitter  FD, get band filters.  And 
transceivers with low phase noise.

73,
Drew K3PA

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:00:57 -0500
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
Message-ID: <3c3849e9-843a-7d12-6fce-c1c913bbc2f2@mwt.net>
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A unit like this.

https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending

Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig
VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?

Joe WB9SBD


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:34:43 -0500
From: Joe <nss@mwt.net>
To: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>,
        "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
Message-ID: <465bb85d-22f3-f1dd-ab50-2b312ba90088@mwt.net>
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I'm thinking for Field Day.

We have the Passband filters for out of band strong stuff.? But they
don't help protect front ends from in band sigs like Phone station CW
station Digital station all on the same band.

Thinking this might help.

Joe WB9SBD

On 6/11/2019 2:13 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
> Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs.  I often use 
> beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product 
> insures no blown receiver front end.
>
> 73
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
>
> A unit like this.
>
> https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending
>
> Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig 
> VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:13:53 -0400
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>, "cq-contest@contesting.com"
        <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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        <0D39B6681B67B44DAEC5D6AD99294A8E04CD7937DDE5@SBEMAIL.sbelectronics.com>

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Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs.  I often use 
beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product insures 
no blown receiver front end.

73

Ed  N1UR

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr

A unit like this.

https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending

Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig 
VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?

Joe WB9SBD


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 14:25:20 -0500
From: "Keith Dutson" <kdutson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Cq-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Multi-2 Station Re-build
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I lost my two stations to a direct lightning strike.  No coax was connected,
but rigs, amps and computers were all connected to power and internet.

I purchased an Icom 7610 last weekend at HamCom.  Now must choose a digital
interface.  I have used Navigator, but am looking for alternatives.  Also
looking for recommendations.  Thanks.

73, Keith NM5G


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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:45:05 -0400
From: "Tim Duffy" <k3lr@k3lr.com>
To: "'Joe'" <nss@mwt.net>, "'Edward Sawyer'"
        <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>,    <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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Hello Joe

If your radio does not have the ability to break out the RX antenna - you
can use the DXE RTR-2.
With the RG5000 plug in module, it will protect your receiver front end.

https://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-rtr-2

73
Tim K3LR



-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Edward Sawyer; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr

I'm thinking for Field Day.

We have the Passband filters for out of band strong stuff.? But they
don't help protect front ends from in band sigs like Phone station CW
station Digital station all on the same band.

Thinking this might help.

Joe WB9SBD

On 6/11/2019 2:13 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:
> Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs.  I often
use beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product
insures no blown receiver front end.
>
> 73
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Joe
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
>
> A unit like this.
>
>
https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-gu
ard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=B
estKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending
>
> Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig
VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
>
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>

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:42:10 -0400
From: Edward Sawyer <EdwardS@sbelectronics.com>
To: Joe <nss@mwt.net>, "cq-contest@contesting.com"
        <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr
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        <0D39B6681B67B44DAEC5D6AD99294A8E04CD7937DDF3@SBEMAIL.sbelectronics.com>

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Joe,  The Passband filters are really for close in overload rejection of radios 
on different bands.  They don't protect in the technical sense.

If the spacing of the stations is at least 150 ft and you are using 100W 
radios, tip to tip on yagis pointed in the same direction (typical of field 
day) my experience is that you don't need this protection and it won't help cut 
down in band interference.

If you do use them, you either have to run receive only antennas and feed it 
into the rcv port or you need a solid state T/R relay and feed the R into the 
rcv port through the protection circuit.  Honestly, I have only seen that done 
with KW stations, not 100W stations.

I did over a decade of SO2R and in band 2 radio with good separation and never 
needed them.  Bandfilters for sure.

73

Ed  N1UR

From: Joe [mailto:nss@mwt.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 3:35 PM
To: Edward Sawyer; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr

I'm thinking for Field Day.

We have the Passband filters for out of band strong stuff.  But they don't help 
protect front ends from in band sigs like Phone station CW station Digital 
station all on the same band.

Thinking this might help.

Joe WB9SBD
On 6/11/2019 2:13 PM, Edward Sawyer wrote:

Joe, I use one going into the RCV antenna port of my FT1000MPs.  I often use 
beverages with dual radio same band (160 - 40) and this type of product insures 
no blown receiver front end.



73



Ed  N1UR



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From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe

Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 1:01 PM

To: cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>

Subject: [CQ-Contest] Reciever Protectorr



A unit like this.



https://www.dxengineering.com/search/product-line/dx-engineering-receiver-guard-electronic-rf-limiters?autoview=SKU&keyword=receive%20protector&sortby=BestKeywordMatch&sortorder=Ascending



Has anyone made it so it can work with a tranciever? Think like weak sig 
VHF/UHF folk do with remote preamps?



Joe WB9SBD





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