Hi Barry,
It would be confusing only to those operators with key clicks,
That's okay with me, they've earned it.
ARRL product reviews are much improved in recent years.
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry W2UP" <w2up.co@gmail.com>
To: donovanf@starpower.net
Cc: pvrc@mailman.qth.net, "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>,
"cwops" <cwops@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:35:24 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [PVRC] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
59K would be confusing in ARRL DX. It would also be confusing among the cut
numbers crowd.
What would also be helpful is ARRL doing honest reviews of equipment and not
sugar coating them all to not alienate their advertisers.
Barry W2UP
On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:27 PM < donovanf@starpower.net > wrote:
What a great idea Doug!
What a concept: contesters help to solve our own problems!
Contest logging software developers could enable use of a "59K"
signal report. I don't think contest sponsors need to do anything at all
except enforce their rules, or in the case of ARRL create a new
unnecessary bandwidth rule which IMHO is long overdue
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug via PVRC" < pvrc@mailman.qth.net >
To: pvrc@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 7:43:18 PM
Subject: Re: [PVRC] [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
Regarding Contest Organizers paying attention to signal quality issues, perhaps
we can do something on our own:
if instead of sending 5NN to a station with offending key clicks, we could send
5N8. The offender will not get credit for the QSO unless he enters 5N8 in his
log, right? If enough people do this , the offender will modify his contest
behavior, I am certain.
It would only be fair to advertise this signal report modification in advance
of a contest to allow an opportunity for compliance before a contest.
73, Doug AA3S
On 6/6/2020 3:14 PM, Frank W3LPL via PVRC wrote:
Hi Rob,
As far as I'm aware, ARRL is completely silent when it comes to
excessive bandwidth signals by participants in their contests.
CQWW contest directors talk a good game, but its not clear that they
actually enforce their excessive bandwidth rules. Perhaps they do...
For example, from the CQWW DX and WPX contest rules:
5. Signals with excessive bandwidth (e.g., splatter, clicks) or harmonics on
other bands
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Sherwood." < rob@nc0b.com >
To: donovanf@starpower.net
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:58:23 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
Hi Frank,
I had no idea contest directors paid attention to any signal quality issues.
Rob
NC0B
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On Jun 6, 2020, at 12:37 PM, " donovanf@starpower.net " <
donovanf@starpower.net > wrote:
<blockquote>
That's an excellent step forward Bud. There's no excuse for intentional
key clicks but that's exactly the place where the Japanese manufacturers
have intentionally put us in 2020.
The current generation of Japanese transceivers are making key click
problems much worse than before. Our only hope is that contest
sponsors improve their rules and enforce them against contesters
taking advantage of the fast CW rise time menu options in their radios.
Manufacturers are completely irresponsible with their 4 millisecond
default CW rise times and egregiously irresponsible with menus
options that allow users to select 1 and 2 millisecond rise times.
Kenwood and Yaesu provide completely unacceptable 1 and 2
millisecond rise time menu options and Icom is almost as bad with
their 2 millisecond menu option.
Why are ARRL and the U.S. distributors not communicating with our
Japanese equipment manufacturers about the problems they're causing
and enabling?
73
Frank
W3LPL
----- Original Message -----
From: "cqwpx director" < cqwpx.director@gmail.com >
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 4:58:15 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] WPX CW Signal Quality Concerns
I have received two (2) actionable complaints of signal quality issues
during WPX CW, which are both under review.
We will investigate additional signal quality concerns. Please provide the
call to be reviewed, along with the date, time and band of the observed
signal quality issue.
73,
Bud Trench, AA3B
Director, CQ WPX Contest
web: < https://cqwpx.com > https://cqwpx.com
email: <mailto: director@cqwpx.com > director@cqwpx.com
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