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Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Self spots

To: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Self spots
From: Ken K6MR <k6mr@outlook.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2021 02:05:36 +0000
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+1 Paul.  However, I think you forgot the /s at the end  :^)

Ken K6MR

From: Paul O'Kane<mailto:pokane@ei5di.com>
Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 18:35
To: cq-contest@contesting.com<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Self spots

Identifying fake "self-spotting" using IP addresses alone is a
non-starter - we all have access to VPNs these days to spoof them.

In supporting, as I do, all relevant technological innovation, I
recommend using the cluster to its fullest extent.  While we await SSB
RBNs, and let's hope it'll be a short wait, I believe that self-spotting
should be encouraged.

After all, the Reverse Beacon Network has democratized CW contesting -
call CQ and you're spotted right away.  Self spotting is simply the SSB
equivalent - calling CQ on the internet.  Why should CW operators have
all the advantages - it's not fair.

73,
Paul EI5DI
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" VPN



On 01/11/2021 20:54, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> IIRC, maybe 20 years ago Dave, K1TTT did some pioneering work in
> identifying self-spotters, I think through the use of IP addresses  It
> may be that the same techniques can be used today - or maybe they can
> at least demonstrate that these were *not* self-spots. Dave?
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 11/1/2021 2:46 PM, Michael Walker wrote:
>> Wow, what a surprise.  I just went and looked at my cluster and sure
>> enough.
>>
>> I was running unassisted and I see that I spotted myself twice.
>>
>> This is not good and the only reason is for someone to ensure that the
>> cluster logging can't be trusted.
>>
>> Mike va3mw

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