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Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

To: Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>, Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 09:21:35 -0500
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Really?  for CW?  Then they are forgoing 99 percent of spots.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/6/2021 6:02 AM, Richard F DiDonna NN3W wrote:
A goodly number of users out there have skimmer spots turned off and only rely on "human" spots.

73 Rich NN3W

On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 10:22 PM Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have no idea how any manual internet spots are of any value
    whatsoever on CW.  If you call CQ you are instantly spotted by
    every skimmer in the world who detects your signal.  You are
    essentially “self spotting” if you call CQ.

    How much perceived benefit is imagined for any number of internet
    spots, real or otherwise as compared to maybe 10,000 real spots
    created by the simple task of pressing F1 throughout a contest?

    Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW

    > On Dec 3, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR
    <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > I'm really surprised at the apparent disregard for VE7CC's
    report of spoofed spots and spoofed self-spots during CQWWCW, all
    seemingly traced to a single IP in Italy.  After the first time
    this happened, a month earlier (CQWWSSB), we were assured that the
    committee had it in hand, with reliable reps in Italy pursuing the
    answer.  Since then, nothing.
    >
    > How about a status report - if people can pull this sort of
    thing with impunity, it will certainly damage efforts to enforce
    the appropriate rule against self-spotting.
    >
    > To refresh memories:
    >
    > ">From the VE7CC-1 cluster log.
    >
    > 27 Nov total spoofed spots 599 out of 30018  non skimmer spots.
    > 28 Nov total spoofed spots 1117 out of  30073 non skimmer spots.
    > Total 1716 spoofed spots from IP 217.61.58.23 over weekend.
    > Includes
    > 203 self spots 27 Nov 2021
    > 385 self spots 28 Nov 2021
    >
    > These spoofed spots are only the ones that I identified with IP
    217.61.58.23.
    > These spots were entered on both DX Spider and CC Cluster
    nodes.  There could
    > be more from AR Cluster or Spider nodes running software that
    doesn't include
    > IP addresses.
    >
    > https://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/SelfSpot-Nov-2021.zip
    > http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/27-Nov-2021.zip
    > http://bcdxc.org/ve7cc/28-Nov-2021.zip
    >
    > Lee VE7CC"
    >
    > --
    > 73, Pete N4ZR
    > Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
    > web server at<http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
    > For spots, please use your favorite
    > "retail" DX cluster.
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