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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW LCR "incorrect call"

To: "kq2m@kq2m.com" <kq2m@kq2m.com>, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>, CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW LCR "incorrect call"
From: Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 18:44:10 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
My feeling is that many times the station I am answering is dealing with QRM 
and doesn't hear or notice I have their call incorrect.

Even more often, especially when asking them to repeat the call again, I 
suspect they are not able to copy CW well enough to understand the request.  
They know we are asking for something so they send the report again.

All part of the game...

Randy K5ZD

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest <cq-contest-bounces+k5zd=outlook.com@contesting.com> On Behalf 
Of kq2m@kq2m.com
Sent: Thursday, February 29, 2024 11:24 AM
To: Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>; CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW CW LCR "incorrect call"


Hi Mike,

Yes, this IS annoying.  My experience has been that in a large % of cases, I 
actually have to KNOW that the callsign is incorrect in order to repeat their 
call with ? and then hope that they come back with their correct call.  If they 
don't respond I try a 2nd time and even a 3rd time.  If they still have not 
come back with their call then I send NIL and remove the qso from my log.  What 
a waste of time and effort all because they can't spend 5 seconds giving me 
their callsign again!

The question is WHY are they not responding to their call (or similar
call) with a ?

Do they not understand what I am asking?
Have they already left the freq. because they did not want to wait an extra few 
seconds to hear me confirm the qso?
Did they not hear my request?  (QRM, QRN, etc.?) Did they not care whether I 
got their callsign correct or not?

I don't know.

So many times I send CL? and instead of their callsign they send their report.  
Huh?

It's all frustrating.

On SSB I say "Callsign?"  or "Callsign again?"  Usually there is no response.
And then I have to delete that qso from my log.

Now compound that with the incessant callers qrming my request for their 
callsign and it gets even more annoying.

Unfortunately, people with poor operating practices and not caring about 
whether I get their call correct or not, also don't care that there in now a 
KQ2M NIL in their LCR months after the contest.  I don't know what the answer 
is. There shouldn't be any people that don't respond to "Callsign?" or "CL?" on 
cw.

73

Bob, KQ2M


On 2024-02-29 06:33, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
> To all serious contesters:

> I have no complaints. Overall I am pretty happy with my performance
> but am wondering about the growing list of "incorrect calls" that I
> have this year.
> I am always looking to improve.

> I am 'about' where I am every big contest. 1.4% error and 4.7% score
> reduction.  I have seen it a little less, but this was a long test at
> nearly
> 3900 Q's

> It's the list of 38 "incorrect calls" I have that I am curious about.
> I
> mostly ran and was unassisted, so I need to work on copying calls
> correctly(that much is obvious) . Some calls had more than one
> typo/error in them but as the runner I sent these busted calls back to
> the caller and nobody corrected me?!
>
> Is this because they are not affected(score-wise) if I butcher their
> call?
> (am I understanding that correctly?)
>
> Anyone else seeing this trend?

> Mike VE9AA (btw, I am not KE9AA, there are no VA9's, no 2x1 VE9 calls
> and VE8AA is not a contester)

> Mike - Keswick Ridge, NB, Canada
>
>
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