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Ed,
I appreciate the offer of the letter from the ARRL. That may be helpful, but
I think rather than frustrating the pizza owner with how to fix it, It would
be nice to find someone that can fix the problem for them. IF the pizza
owner calls Joe Blow sign company and they have no idea what to do or tell
him that I need to put a "filter" my "radio" (Which did happen already), the
letter does no good and serves to alienate me from a workable solution. I
have myself called a number of neon sign shops in the area and their
response was "Have no idea what your taking about", "Never had that
problem".
As far as Riley deferring to the judgement and decisions of the local
office, this is somewhat frustrating to hear. Mr. Rahtes sent Mr. Dombrowski
to investigate this problem. Mr Dombrowski claims he heard minimal noise in
my driveway from the pizza shop. Mr Dombrowski might have been using an
inefficient antenna on his equipment as I can demonstrate using my antennas
to anyone that cares to see, how severe the noise is from the neon
installation on this pizza establishment over 1/4 mile away. Personally I
have sat in my driveway and experienced the some level of interference from
the neon display but, my shack is in my house and I use fully grown antennas
on my tower when Im operating.
Incidentally, I resolved a severe power line noise problem by video taping
my DFexpedition with all the telephone poles involved and sent a copy to the
local power company interference bureau. That worked quite well. I got
results.
Noise blankers are at times helpful but not always. My MFJ-1026 does help
but only on the low bands 30 MHz and below. 6 meters is affected severely.
So what do you think so far about my battles, do I still have a chance to
win the wars ?
Stephanie R. Koles WX3K
wx3k@arrl.net
http://www.qsl.net/wx3k
Assistant Skywarn Coordinator Somerset County, NJ
Mt. Holly Skywarn Technical Committee Vice Chair
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hare,Ed, W1RFI [mailto:w1rfi@arrl.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:11 AM
> To: 'Stephanie WX3K'; rfi@contesting.com
> Cc: Phillips, John K2QAI
> Subject: RE: [RFI] Neon Light Interference
>
> ARRL has been having some reasonable success writing letters to power
> companies. We have met with some, but less, success in contacting
> neighbors of hams, and the like. John Phillips, K2QAI, here at HQ can
> write a letter to the pizza company, if you feel that would be helpful.
> We do so under the auspices of the agreement we have with Riley that the
> League will try to help resolve these cases with the affected parties.
>
> Normally, the next step, if the ARRL letter didn't help, would be for the
> League to ask Riley to send a letter to the pizza shop, but in this case,
> the first step involved the local field office, so Riley generally defers
> to their judgement and decisions. But that wouldn't preclude the ARRL
> writing the letter, if you think that would help. From there, we will
> certainly see what can be done with the FCC, if necessary.
>
> Send k2qai@arrl.org the following:
>
> o A summary of the case so far. Ensure that this is in a format that can
> be shared with the operator of the neon sign and the FCC, if necessary.
> o The name and mailing address of the pizza operator
>
> John will then send a letter than may help.
>
> 73,
> Ed Hare, W1RFI
> ARRL Lab
> 225 Main St
> Newington, CT 06111
> Tel: 860-594-0318
> Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org
> Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephanie WX3K [mailto:wx3k@ptd.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:55 PM
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: [RFI] Neon Light Interference
>
> All,
>
> I have had this neon light interference problem since I moved here 6
> years ago. A pizza place about 1/4 mile away has outside neon lighting on
> their building. Unfortunately, The place has changed owners at least 4
> times since then. Every owner has been unwilling to cooperate. Actually, I
> think I discouraged the last owner by complaining about it and shortly
> after that the place changed hands again.
>
> In any event, The Langhorne office of the FCC did receive a formal
> complaint about it from me, but has not resolved the issue. Since I have
> been active again on the low bands, more so than past years, I want to
> pursue this issue again but I want some advice about the following:
>
> 1) Recommendations from an experienced neon lighting installer who
> understands why these two displays of neon (totaling about 50-75 feet of
> lighted neon) oscillate so badly as to cause interference from 3.5 through
> 50 MHz !!!!!!!
>
> 2) Any volunteers that may want to offer services to resolve this
> problem with the lighting. ?
>
> I would like to have one additional person to approach this place
> with and perhaps make one last attempt to ask the new owner to resolve it.
> I have always been very diplomatic and cordial in the past but that does
> not go very far when the owners are ignorant to begin with.
>
> It really does not make sense to force the FCC to resolve the issue
> when there are no educated neon installer in the area to fix the problem.
> The original installer created the problem and as I understand the problem
> from other neon folks, the display is oscillating because the HV
> transformers are not loaded properly with the right amount of lighting.
> (Transformers used have too high a voltage for the amount of lighting
> used)
>
> Please dont ask me how I know if this is the problem. I have done
> extensive DF work and spent many hours searching for RFI around my house
> and this neon display is one of the last significant sources of RFI I need
> to resolve.
>
> Stephanie R. Koles WX3K
> wx3k@arrl.net
> http://www.qsl.net/wx3k
>
> Assistant Skywarn Coordinator Somerset County, NJ
> Mt. Holly Skywarn Technical Committee Vice Chair
>
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