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[RFI] THANKS! (was: Experience with RF-INQUIRY Hi-Q Chokes?)

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Subject: [RFI] THANKS! (was: Experience with RF-INQUIRY Hi-Q Chokes?)
From: Christian Buenger <c.buenger@gmx.ch>
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 12:06:21 +0000
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Hi,

Thanks for your valuable comments. I will not try these overpriced products :). Instead I will stick with some ferrite-beads on teflon coax. As well I will try to improve the already placed "coiled coax" "balun" at the feedpoint of the antenna.

To me these claimed 50dB sound too high. Additionally there is not much info on the web about these commercial chokes. And if they would keep what they claim (to be the killer application if it comes to common mode current) then you would read much more stuff about them on the net. At least google did not find much about it.

Thanks again!

73
Christian, DL6KAC

At 14:00 02.02.2004, you wrote:
Tom Rauch wrote, in response to:
just came across an advertisement of a common-mode choke produced by
RF-inquiry of Japan. They claim to provide at least 50 dB of reduction of
common-mode-currents.
I agree with Tom's earlier post, that the 50dB target is hard to hit without accepting a reduced bandwidth.

Also, "at least 50dB" has to be at the top and bottom edges of the claimed bandwidth, so the mid-band performance would have to be better still.

Hmmm... we seem to be deep into the territory where "the more you claim to have achieved, the more you need to prove it."


Tom added:
By the way, if the common mode source and load impedances are a fraction of
an ohm it is easy to obtain -50dB. If the common mode source and load
impedances (which have nothing much to do with line impedance) are 1000
ohms, we would be lucky to see 10dB.

It depends on how they measured.

The standard method is to measure between a 50-ohm source and load - the input being to the coax shield at one end, and the output from the shield at the opposite end.


The 50-ohm source and load may not represent any particular real-life application, but they do allow fair comparisons between competing products.


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