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Re: [RFI] RFI issues in electric (or hybrid) vehicles

To: "svetanoff@earthlink.net" <svetanoff@earthlink.net>, Charles Coldwell <coldwell@gmail.com>, RFI RFI <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI issues in electric (or hybrid) vehicles
From: Gary Smith <wa6fgi@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: Gary Smith <wa6fgi@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:45:34 -0700 (PDT)
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I would suggest a  nice note written to Toyota for that answer.  They were very 
nice  to me when I inquired as to what/where to run the DC leads on my 2009 
Scion. Wrote back to me a polite three pager, suggested that I keep the HF 
power and DC leads away form the computer underneath the right front seat.

Fwiw, you can unsnap the trim cover off of the inside right channel where 
Toyota runs their needed stuff and hide the DC/control cable wiring inside.


On a finial note, in the past, via QST mag a few years past, did read that 
early Toyota computer modules would go south in a heartbeat if very strong HF 
fields were nearby.

73,

Gary....wa6fgi




>________________________________
> From: Dale Svetanoff <svetanoff@earthlink.net>
>To: Gary Smith <wa6fgi@yahoo.com>; Charles Coldwell <coldwell@gmail.com>; RFI 
>RFI <rfi@contesting.com> 
>Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 9:34 AM
>Subject: Re:RFI issues in electric (or hybrid) vehicles
> 
>All,
>
>My thanks to all of you who made comments on this topic.  I was surprised
>that only 1 person commented on the article (which was not very well
>written), but we certainly got a lot of comments on the Prius, both good
>and bad.  I have the impression (again, right or wrong) that the Prius may
>have had its power converter and associated systems/wiring improved over
>the years such that newer models are not as noisy as early ones.  
>
>As far as I can tell, there were no comments from anyone having placed a
>ham rig into an all-electric vehicle, such as the Nissan Leaf.  It also
>sounds as if both hybrids and all-electrics are on somewhat thin ice as
>regards future popularity, mainly due to the cost of the main battery pack
>and the issue of recharge time and/or cost.  Unless gas prices really do
>hit $5/gal, or more, this year, the hoopla over these cars and the
>manufacture of their expensive batteries in new US factories may be just
>that - noise with little substance.  
>
>I did learn one thing about at least some of the hybrids: I did not know
>that a small "auxiliary" battery was used to run 12 VDC accessories.  If
>that is where the radios are to be powered, then one has to wonder how well
>that accessory power buss is decoupled from the main, high power buss, and
>how low of an impedance to chassis "ground" does the overall current path
>represent.  
>
>73, Dale
>WA9ENA
>Sr. EMC Engineer    
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Gary Smith <wa6fgi@yahoo.com>
>> To: Charles Coldwell <coldwell@gmail.com>; RFI RFI <rfi@contesting.com>
>> Date: 4/11/2012 7:23:35
>> Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI issues in electric (or hybrid) vehicles
>>
>> When I switch off my Prius hybird and my 2 meter radio is on 147.000Mhz,
>I get a S-5 level buzz in my kenwood TM-D710. Push the "on" button for the
>car,  the buzz goes away. 5 khz up or down, no noise is heard.
>> Gary...wa6fgi
>>   
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> >From: Charles Coldwell <coldwell@gmail.com>
>> >To: RFI RFI <rfi@contesting.com> 
>> >Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:25 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [RFI] RFI issues in electric (or hybrid) vehicles
>> >
>> >On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Dale Svetanoff
>> ><svetanoff@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My thinking (could be wrong)
>> >> is that there might be differing levels of RFI present in these
>vehicles,
>> >> depending upon whether the gas engine was operating or not.
>> >
>> >Certainly seems likely, since the gasoline engine can itself be a
>> >source of RFI (ignition, fuel injection).  See the excellent website
>> >from K0BG:
>> >
>> >http://www.k0bg.com/ignition.html
>> >
>> >-- 
>> >Charles M. Coldwell, W1CMC
>> >Belmont, Massachusetts, New England
>> >"Turn on, log in, tune out"
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