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Re: [RFI] w7ekb & ground rods

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Subject: Re: [RFI] w7ekb & ground rods
From: David Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Reply-to: dave@nk7z.net
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 19:59:43 -0800
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Hi,

My only real concern is how long the ground system will last...  My
intent is about 6 rods, spaced about 12 feet, and 10 ft deep...  

That is why I am considering Galvanized, as opposed to copper coated
steel.  I just wish solid copper rods were still available...


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On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 19:59 -0600, Jim Miller wrote:
> Not to stir the conclusion here but,  
> 
> More grounds would likely be more effective than larger ones because each
> has an entirely new area of ground to dissipate the energy providing they
> are properly spaced and connected.
> 
> Just thinking, I wouldn't want to be holding the other end of a steel rod
> during a lightning strike any more than I would a copper clad one.
> 
> 73, Jim KG0KP
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Cole
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 3:16 PM
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] w7ekb & ground rods
> 
> Would not a 1 inch copper pipe driven into the ground have more conductive
> area?  I have a grounding project coming up this summer, and am looking
> forward to the rest of this discussion.
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
> for MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> for Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> for MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2015-01-18 at 13:28 -0500, K1FZ-Bruce wrote:
> >      The water idea is good on the near ground rod, but not so easy on 
> > the far end of a very long Beverage antenna. 
> >    
> >   Earlier in the discussion, (note lower in this posting) it was noted 
> > that much of the copper on a  platted rod was pitted, and  eroded 
> > away. Steel itself is a poor conductor. 
> >    
> >   The 3/4 inch thick wall copper pipe, in many cases, gives enough 
> > mechanical strength, but more importantly, has more conductive surface 
> > area. 
> >    
> >   73
> >   Bruce-k1fz
> >    
> >   www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html
> >    
> >    
> >    
> > 
> > On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 12:28:58 -0500, "Roger (K8RI)" 
> > <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com> wrote:
> > It's easier ti hook a hose to the other end and use it like a water
> >   > drill. No beating, no deforming and it goes in easily and quickly. 
> >   > Stony soil? Then copper pipe can not be driven either. Copper plated
> >   > steel is more rugged and much cheaper. 
> >   >
> >   > 73
> >   >
> >   > Roger (K8RI)
> >   >
> >   >
> >   >
> >   > On 1/18/2015 11:20 AM, K1FZ-Bruce wrote:
> >   > >
> >   > > I use thick wall 3/4 inch copper pipe from local hardware stores. 
> >   > > Beating the ground end of a segment into a point with a hammer,
> makes
> >   > > the insertion into the ground easier. It can skid around smaller
> rocks
> >   > > better. 
> >   > > 73
> >   > > Bruce-k1fz. www.qsl.net/k1fz/beveragenotes.html
> >   > >
> >   > >
> >   > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 16:20:28 -0600, dalej <dj2001x@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >   > > The copper coated rods eventually will deteriorate, I've found too. 
> >   > > After pulling them out I've found them speckled where the copper has
> >   > > eroded away and the base material shown. I like the solid copper
> >   > > tubing as ground rods better, but they are not that easy to embed.
> Use
> >   > > water to get them in the ground. >
> >   > > > Dale, k9vuj
> >   > > >
> > 
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