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Re: [RFI] AFCI and RFI

To: D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] AFCI and RFI
From: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2018 19:00:34 +0000
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The unit that gives me problems is a GE breaker.

Dave - WØLEV

On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 4:13 PM, D C _Mac_ Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> You seem to have misread, Mike.  The offending breakers ARE Eaton.
>
>
> 73 de Mac, K2GKK/5
> (Since 30 Nov '53)
> Oklahoma City, OK
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> Subject: Re: [RFI] AFCI and RFI
>
> Seems like the easy solution is to change the offending breaker(s) to
> Eaton.
>
>
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> 73,
> Mike
> NS6Q
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 8:55 AM, David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Our home was built 4 years ago.  We have the same problem.  Also, one of
> > the switches in the master suite evidently arcs a bit as that also trips
> > the d$%^& breaker as you describe.  RF also gets to it.  Gott'a just love
> > this digital age ! !
> >
> > Dave - WØLEV
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon <
> > kgordon2006@frontier.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Local codes require those new AFCI (Arc Fault Circuit Interrupter)
> > > breakers in any circuit feeding a bedroom here.
> > >
> > > We have two such circuits feeding our bedroom and an adjacent office
> in a
> > > recent addition to our home.
> > >
> > > Whenever I am on 40 meters, either one or both AFCIs will trip off.
> This
> > > is highly annoying to my wife, and I don't like it much either.
> > >
> > > I have contacted the maker of the breakers, Square D, and they tell me,
> > > after some rudimentary tests, that there is nothing wrong with their
> > > breakers.
> > >
> > > So, I am left with trying to filter the RF off the lines to the
> breakers.
> > >
> > > I had thought of connecting an X-2 type 0.01 uFd capacitor across the
> > line
> > > and neutral wires going into the breaker, and a pair of Y-2 0.01 uFd
> > types
> > > from both line and neutral to ground.
> > >
> > > However, I am somewhat reluctant to try this as I suspect that the
> > leakage
> > > across those caps will trip the AFCI off.
> > >
> > > Tonight I thought that perhaps some ferrite filters, either a series of
> > > snap-on types, or some toroid types, on each wire which connects to the
> > > breaker would filter enough of the RF to prevent the breakers from
> > > tripping off.
> > >
> > > Has anyone here run into this sort of problem and if so, how did you
> > > eliminate that?
> > >
> > > BTW, I am a qualified electrician, and wired our entire addition and
> the
> > > sub-panel which contains these breakers. The local Electrical Inspector
> > > gave me an "A" grade for my work.
> > >
> > > Additional information: I am running close to a kW output to a vertical
> > > antenna which is about 25 feet from the breaker-panel. The vertical
> has a
> > > good ground-system, 32 radials, and I don't get this sort of problem
> from
> > > any band but 40 meters. My favorite mode is CW, although I also operate
> > > some digital modes, but at lower power, like 50 watts. I seldom operate
> > > voice. The digital signals never trip the AFCIs.
> > >
> > > Ken W7EKB
> > >
> > >
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