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Re: [RFI] Smoke Detectors Beeping

To: Richard Battles <wb4byq@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Smoke Detectors Beeping
From: K4SBZ <k4sbz.stan@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 13:42:02 -0400
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Dale,

I disconnected the one in my shack. The next one beeped.  Disconnected that and 
the next one beeped. It would have continued until it reached my daughters side 
of the two family house.   Drats! Foiled again. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 29, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Richard Battles <wb4byq@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Had the same problem with the 120 volt wired detectors.  I noticed that the 
> circuit board in the 120 volt units was showing
> signs of heat from the power resistor,  circuit board was turning brown.  
> Replace the wired units with single not wired units
> from Lowes, etc. with 9 volt battery.  fixed the false alarms.  also 
> installed smoke detectors with the house alarm system
> that are wireless for additional protection.  No false alarms and no worry 
> about circuit boards turning brown.
> 
> richard  wb4byq
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Dale Johnson <dj2001x@comcast.net> wrote:
>> I just might disconnect all my smoke detetors and the co2 also.  Did not 
>> have them before, been in this house 45 years and up till just the past few 
>> years they suddenly said we can’t live without smoke detectors.  LOL….
>> 
>> Carry on with smoke detectors…etc
>> 
>> Dale
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 29, Jul 2018, at 15:39, Stanley Zawrotny <k4sbz.stan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Standalone smoke detectors are fine in mobile homes and other small 
>> installations where one or two will do the job. We have a two family home 
>> (my daughter has the other wing) and we have 9 units. We would want to be 
>> informed if aa fire broke out on her side of the house.
>> 
>> “Trying” another brand is a shakey solution when replacing the system would 
>> cost a couple of grand with no guarantee of return if it didn’t work.
>> 
>> Stan, K4SBZ
>> 
>> "Real radio bounces off the sky."
>> 
>> > On Jul 28, 2018, at 7:17 PM, Randy Standke <r55stan@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Another possible solution to RF sensitive smoke detectors are the newer 10 
>> > year battery smoke detectors now available.  Even if you had wired smoke 
>> > detectors.  Just install the new detectors in the same location to cover 
>> > the electrical box.  This avoids the problem with susceptibility to the RF 
>> > on the wiring since there is no wiring connected to these detectors.  I 
>> > also understand that the sensors degrade over time.  With these 10 year 
>> > detectors you toss the whole thing in 10 years.  I recently volunteered 
>> > with the Red Cross to install smoke detectors in a mobile home community.  
>> > We only used the 10 year battery models.  Some homes had really old wired 
>> > detectors.  The advice was if they are more than 10 years old replace 
>> > them.  So we did, right over the old electrical box.  I have two from 
>> > Kidde in my house.  1500 Watts into roof mounted antennas doesn't bother 
>> > them.
>> > 
>> > Randy
>> > KQ6RS
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: RFI <rfi-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of NA6MB Mike
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 3:54 PM
>> > To: john@kk9a.com
>> > Cc: rfi@contesting.com
>> > Subject: Re: [RFI] Smoke Detectors Beeping
>> > 
>> > Poor design is almost always the problem when it’s the only thing with a 
>> > problem.
>> > I have old co2 detectors that beeped.
>> > Replaced with quality brand an now all is ok. 
>> > 
>> > Mike
>> > NA6MB 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> > 
>> >> On Jul 28, 2018, at 9:56 AM, <john@kk9a.com> <john@kk9a.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> The original poster did not say if it is a wired, multiple wired 
>> >> linked detectors or a battery unit but I am guessing that it is not a 
>> >> battery type.
>> >> Trying a different brand may be interesting.  
>> >> 
>> >> John KK9A
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Jim Brown jim at audiosystemsgroup.com Sat Jul 28 12:03:04 EDT 2018
>> >> 
>> >>> On 7/28/2018 6:43 AM, john at kk9a.com wrote:
>> >>> It is likely that the majority of the problem is feedline radiation.
>> >> 
>> >> While it is likely a PART of the problem, the greatest part of the 
>> >> problem is the wiring issues and poor design of the detector.
>> >> 
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