For a hobby I don’t think so. For MARS it will be different. Interference on
military frequenies takes to a higher level. I don’t plan to move anywhere.
I’ll have to tough it out and fill complaint forms when needed.
Dale, k9vuj
On 18, Aug 2018, at 17:48, David Harmon <k6xyz@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Run for cover to EchoLink. hi hi<<
Gawd noooo.....
On the remote operation thing....what is the usual procedure?
Buy time from someone that has a good station out in the weeds or buy some
property and set up your own?
73
David Harmon
K6XYZ
Sperry, OK
-----Original Message-----
From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob W7KD via RFI
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 4:10 PM
To: Dave Cole (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net>; rfi@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC RFI Question
Giving up is the easy way out.
Run for cover to EchoLink. hi hi
Bob W7KD
From: Dave Cole (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net>
To: rfi@contesting.com
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [RFI] FCC RFI Question
I have been considering more and more, remoting my entire station.
73s and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Technical Specialist
On 08/18/2018 11:08 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> This is why Remote Ham Radio is and will continue to be a huge thing.
> I understand those that wish to chase awards all from a single
> location etc. Hopefully there is more to the hobby than Honor Roll.
>
> Nobody knows when their day is coming, these issues are just as
> important to the young or old.
>
> We in the west are constantly told by those on the East Coast to move
> if we wanted to be treated fairly in contests. Moving is probably not
> an option for most, but if a move is in the works it becomes even more
> important to put high noise cities in directions not toward EU or what
> you are really wanting to work. I know a number of hams that want a
> place near Denver but they will only look for places where Denver
> metropolis is not in a good path EU, JA, etc.
>
> Peoples conveniences are probably going to win out over our little
> hobby as the light rail noise generators are now about 2 miles from my
> house and will extend closer and closer and there is nothing I will be
> able to do to fight it.
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
> On 8/18/2018 10:17 AM, Dave Cole (NK7Z) wrote:
>> Rob,
>>
>> If only I were a young man again, then I would not be as patient as I
>> am today... Please take the next few paragraphs in the vain they are
>> given. Respectfully.
>>
>> Let me re-quote something I said in this very thread:
>>
>> ==========CUT==========
>> I well understand your frustration with your RFI issues... I am many
>> months out in not being able to use HF at all due to RFI. I am
>> frustrated beyond belief. Why? My hobby of 50 years is now at an
>> end until the FCC corrects the issue, I may not get Honor Roll as a
>> result of this, I am 65, my time is running short. The next sunspot
>> peak may be my last... You bet I am pissed, but I am also careful,
>> and thoughtful, and I want a solution that sticks, and more
>> importantly is good for the Amateur Community as a whole.
>> ==========CUT==========
>>
>> My goal is to correct the problem in the shortest possible time,
>> using all legal means possible. We have no choice in this, unless we
>> break the law.
>>
>> Here are some of our choices:
>>
>> 1. Take the slow, and what I feel is a more effective course.
>> 2. Scream and yell, and hope you get results.
>> 3. Do something stupid and end up in jail, or worse.
>> 4. Quit ham radio.
>> 5. Work around the RFI until you can get it corrected.
>>
>> Items 2, 3, and 4 are not acceptable to me, and should not be to you
>> either. Items 1 ,and 4 are acceptable.
>>
>> We simply have no choice in this if we are to remain law abiding, and
>> I intend to do just that, remain law abiding...
>>
>> Carping, yelling, screaming, kicking the floor, and foot stomping,
>> just make things worse for everyone. On top of that, those steps are
>> simply not an effective use of our time to correct this problem. I
>> want to use my remaining years as effectively as possible, and that
>> means working within the existing system in a way that is effective.
>> Using ineffective methods just wastes my remaining years.
>>
>> The world has changed, if we can't adopt-- well there was once a
>> species of lizards called dinosaurs, we all know how that ended...
>>
>> Remember in VE land their version of the FCC just stopped enforcement
>> completely... Your ONLY recourse there is via the court system...
>> You it takes time now in the US...
>>
>> Running around and throwing rocks might work once, but more than
>> likely it will make it worse for you, and for others. Take the time
>> to think things through, do it right and you sometimes get rewarded.
>>
>> I have had seven grow light RFI issues in the past 5 years. All of
>> them but my current issue have been quickly solved, without the FCC,
>> or the ARRL even being involved. How? Documentation, a friendly
>> approach, and avoiding conflict where possible.
>>
>> I dislike RFI as much as you, possibly more, I am ticked as hell at
>> having to play all of these games! I just want to play radio on 40
>> meters in the early mornings. I can't, and it pisses me off every
>> morning I get up and can't. I have a legal right to do this, and not
>> have to put up with RFI at these levels, but... In the real world,
>> enforcement is not always equal, and it is not what it used to be.
>>
>> I will correct this. If I have to write my Congressman to get
>> action, I will correct this.
>>
>> If it comes to that, and I hope it does not, I want to insure I have
>> done EVERYTHING correctly, and legally. The goal is to win the war,
>> not just one battle. I want 40 meters back, and I will get it
>> back... But, as I said, sometimes solving RFI just takes time.
>>
>> It is not fair, but the world is not fair... I wish it were... So
>> yes, I do understand your position, I am in that same position...
>>
>> Remember, the FCC is really on our side, and they are just as
>> hamstrung as we are with legal issues. There is no magic wand for
>> this...
>>
>> Take care, and I hope your RFI gets solved sooner than later...
>>
>> 73s and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Technical Specialist
>>
>> On 08/17/2018 06:09 PM, Rob Atkinson wrote:
>>>> I am happy with this response, and will wait for things to take
>>>> their course.
>>>> Again, slow, steady, and making sure you cross every "t", and dot
>>>> every "i" seems to work for me. So far...
>>>
>>>> Solving RFI just takes lots of time...
>>>
>>> That's FB for a young ham with his whole life ahead of him. But for
>>> the rest of us getting up there in years, we see the time of our
>>> precious few remaining good ham years slipping away while we wait
>>> for something to happen and listen to noise in the mean time. Pretty
>>> tough to be patient when you can't be certain if you'll be around
>>> for a year or another 10 and one of the few joys of your life is
>>> gone because some jerk with a solar panel or grow light or something else.
>>> I guess this helps explain why HF is so empty now. An old man just
>>> don't have the energy and fight for this kind of battle.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Rob
>>> K5UJ
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