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Re: [RFI] Fwd: 20 Meter Interference

To: r55stan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] Fwd: 20 Meter Interference
From: WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:27:50 -0500
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Been there, done that....my culprit was a catv modem that also provides voip 
phone service....I guess the fcc requires them to have a battery backup in them 
so you can still use the phone in a power outage.....cable company swapped it 
out, new one much quieter 

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 26, 2021, at 6:05 PM, r55stan@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Don't forget to also turn off any battery backup power, such as 
> uninterruptable power supplies many of us use for computers, WiFi routers 
> etc.  The inverters in them and the devices they power will still be on.  I 
> once wasted a few hours searching for RFI that was still there after all of 
> my circuit breakers were off.  Since the breakers were off I first assumed it 
> must be from a neighbor.  It ended up being Ethernet on CAT5 cables in my own 
> house, which was running on the backup power supply.
> 
> Good luck hunting,
> 
> Randy KQ6RS
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+r55stan=gmail.com@contesting.com> On Behalf Of K9MA
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 2:37 PM
> To: rfi@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [RFI] Fwd: 20 Meter Interference
> 
> Yes, I discovered it by running the radio on a battery and turning off 
> circuit breakers.
> 
> The culprit definitely was the wall wart. The cyclic pattern apparently was 
> due to the device intermittently loading it.
> 
> 73,
> Scott K9MA
> 
>> On 2/26/2021 2:13 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
>> Did you discover this during a home power off test?
>> 
>> 73, and thanks,
>> Dave (NK7Z)
>> https://www.nk7z.net
>> ARRL Volunteer Examiner
>> ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
>> ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
>> 
>>> On 2/26/21 10:04 AM, K9MA wrote:
>>> It turned out to be a wireless doorbell extender, right in the shack. 
>>> Once again proving that one should check your own home first. I'm not 
>>> sure if it's the wall wart or the device itself. It seems to have 
>>> magically fixed itself after power cycling, but I'm sure it will be 
>>> back.
>>> 
>>> I suspect the 1.1 second interval between noise pulses is the polling 
>>> period of the device, when it draws current from the wall wart. If a 
>>> ferrite core on the power lead doesn't fix it, I'll just unplug it 
>>> when operating.  Who wants to be disturbed by the doorbell then, anyway?
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Scott K9MA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject:     Re: [RFI] 20 Meter Interference
>>> Date:     Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:25:09 -0600
>>> From:     K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
>>> To:     rfi@contesting.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The spectra images didn't come through, so here are the links:
>>> 
>>> http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m_K9MA.jpg
>>> <http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m_K9MA.jpg>
>>> 
>>> http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m1_K9MA.jpg
>>> <http://sdellington.us/hr/RFI/20m1_K9MA.jpg>
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Scott K9MA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/23/2021 7:46 PM, K9MA wrote:
>>>> I've recently started seeing this signal on 20 meters, probably 
>>>> local, as it is present late at night when the band is dead. It is a 
>>>> swept signal, typically starting at about 13.625, sweeping upward to 
>>>> a sharp cutoff at about 14.125. The total sweep seems to be about
>>>> 500 kHz. The sweep slows down near the upper limit and seems to 
>>>> dwell there. Sweep repeats about once per second. It seems to be 
>>>> amplitude modulated during the sweep, so it shows up as a series of 
>>>> pulses on the waterfall display. While the frequency range seems 
>>>> fairly stable, it does move around a bit. I can't tell whether the 
>>>> frequency change is systematic or random.
>>>> 
>>>> In the attached images, the blue trace is the peak signal, 
>>>> accumulated over many sweeps. The yellow one is the actual signal, 
>>>> without averaging, which I caught near the upper end of the sweep.
>>>> The waterfall shows the pulsed modulation. Resolution bandwidth is 
>>>> about 440 Hz.
>>>> 
>>>> Any idea what this might be?
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> 
>>>> Scott K9MA
>>>> 
>>> 
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