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Re: [RFI] I could see the arcs with binoculars last night! (Resolved?)

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Subject: Re: [RFI] I could see the arcs with binoculars last night! (Resolved?)
From: <n0tt1@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2021 22:12:03 +0000
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Update!

Google this:  "infrared cell phone camera app".  Looks like you guys
with 'Droids can be all set for a FLIR.

Charlie, N0TT

On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 21:28:14 +0000 <n0tt1@juno.com> writes:
> "Still looking at night vision toys, lol."
> 
> Chuck,
> 
> When I had my garage floor "mud-jacked" with a hot mix of 
> "plastic",
> one of the guys had a tablet computer with it's built-in camera that 
> was
> sensitive to infared.  He
> showed me where the hot mix was going under the concrete on the 
> screen.  
> 
> Now I'm thinking that something similar would show any higher 
> temperature
> 
> areas on any powerline hardware.
> 
> There might be a "app" for that for use with a cellphone....just
> thinking out loud.  :O)
> 
> 73,
> Charlie, N0TT
> 
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 02:24:08 -0500 Charles Plunk <af4o@twc.com> 
> writes:
> > Dave,
> > 
> > Yes I would try the binoculars. Surely cannot hurt. One 
> difficultly 
> > I 
> > had was a streetlight in my front yard is LED and another is 
> mercury 
> > 
> > about 200' in another direction. They would reflect off shiny 
> > hardware 
> > like insulators and fool me into thinking it was arcs but when I 
> saw 
> > the 
> > tiny arc between the wire and that square washer I realized that 
> > indeed 
> > was very likely an arc as that stuff is dull and not that 
> > reflective.
> > 
> > Chasing this stuff is certainly time consuming but can be 
> rewarding. 
> > 
> > This group is the best around. Their tip to match the noise 
> somehow 
> > was 
> > my big breakthrough. Doing that was not easy but that one day when 
> 
> > the 
> > noise had a distinctive pattern and I was able to listen at the 
> same 
> > 
> > time to the retransmitted audio from my station receiver on one HT 
> 
> > and 
> > to my triangulation audio on another HT made the difference in 
> > finding 
> > the right pole. Lots of noise out there that will mislead you. 
> Other 
> > 
> > poles, houses, etc many seem to all have noise if you get close 
> > enough 
> > but may not be affecting your station receiver significantly.
> > 
> > Then ultrasonic and the flashlight. Still looking at night vision 
> > toys, lol.
> > 
> > My utility was great! They were on the front page of the local 
> paper 
> > 
> > this week for their reliability rating. The new CEO must have it 
> > going on.
> > 
> > 73
> > 
> > Chuck
> > AF4O
> > 
> > On 4/15/21 11:05 PM, David Decoons wrote:
> > > Hi Chuck,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the detailed description of your problem and how you 
> 
> > were able to find it. I have power line noise prevalent when dry 
> and 
> > windy. You can watch the noise floor jump up and down. When it 
> rains 
> > or not windy it usually is not present. When present the noise 
> floor 
> > on 40  and 15 meters is 20 to 25 dB higher. Using the Flex Wide 
> > Noise Blanker I can get the noise to drop almost to normal, but as 
> 
> > the arcing comes and goes rapidly with windy day the WNB keeps 
> trying 
> > to reobtain lock.
> > >
> > > I have narrowed it down to what I think is a single pole on 
> right 
> > front corner of my property. I will try the binocular trick at 
> > night. It is supposed to be windy tomorrow with drying 
> conditions.
> > >
> > > The good thing is I know the person in charge of the group that 
> 
> > would respond to RFI noise complaints at the local utility 
> company. 
> > He has been very cooperative in the past.
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Dave wo2x
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Apr 15, 2021, at 9:30 PM, Charles Plunk <af4o@twc.com> 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?I notified the utility on Sunday evening. They come out today 
> 
> > and did the work. I will be updating the website below as I got a 
> 
> > chance. After such a long time I am hesitant to believe its fixed 
> 
> > until listening for about a month but it sure appears to be fixed. 
> I 
> > am not hearing a peep of the same noise.
> > >>
> > >> I have 2 doublets and a 6BTV vertical on HF, a 4 el 6m beam, 
> and 
> > some 2m beams and am hearing some noise on some bands on one and 
> > other noise on the other bands on the other but nothing like the 
> > intensity of the 120hz noise I was hearing on all of them. I am 
> > probably hearing these noises now since they were masked by the 
> > other far more stronger noise. At any rate these pale in 
> comparison 
> > to the other and go away for the most part at night as the 
> humidity 
> > rises. Will chase them as I get time. They may not even be 120hz.
> > >>
> > >> At any rate I am happy happy right now!
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >>
> > >> Chuck
> > >> AF4O
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 4/11/21 1:47 PM, Charles Plunk wrote:
> > >>> Last night I tried my digital camera and binoculars. I could 
> see 
> > the arc's with binoculars! Looks like ground and neutral wires are 
> 
> > to close to other hardware. The digital camera captured one arc 
> but 
> > was so dark could not see the pole. Anyone ever use a night vision 
> 
> > camera like used for hunting etc for this?
> > >>>
> > >>> Updated details at 
> >
>
https://www.qsl.net/af4o/Powerline%20RFI%20QSL.net%20Webpage/Arc%20Webpag
> e.html
> > >>>
> > >>> Great group here. Thanks for everyone's help!
> > >>>
> > >>> 73
> > >>>
> > >>> Chuck
> > >>> AF4O
> > >>>
> > >>> (Soon to be W4NBO, a call my Elmer (SK) had for 20 years)
> > >>>
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