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To: donovanf@erols.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] LED lighting fixtures -
From: K9MA <k9ma@sdellington.us>
Date: Mon, 24 May 2021 14:18:32 -0500
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I think some of the LED tube replacements can run directly from the AC line, 
bypassing the ballasts. It's a minor wiring job, which I highly recommend. The 
electronics in the tube can interact with the ballast, especially an electronic 
one, and generate RFI. 

I've installed many LED lights in my house, with no RFI issues.  However,
I always test them for RFI before installing them. I haven't had to take any 
back, but I did have to replace the power supply for a neighbor's strip lights.

73,
Scott K9MA 


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Scott Ellington

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> On May 24, 2021, at 11:26 AM, donovanf@erols.com wrote:
> 
> Hi Don, 
> 
> 
> I replaced 24 florescent tubes with Hyperikon LED tubes:: 
> 
> 
> www.hyperikon.com/content/specs/841X00XXX-XPack.pdf 
> 
> 
> I've never heard a trace of RFI from them. The electronic ballasts 
> for my florescent tubes were a problem especially on 6 meters, 
> 
> 
> I even wrapped a few feet of wire around the LED tubes and 
> connected it to my HP spectrum analyzer and could find no trace 
> of RFI 
> 
> 
> 73 
> Frank 
> W3LPL 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: "Don Kirk" <wd8dsb@gmail.com> 
> To: "Gary" <gary_mayfield@hotmail.com> 
> Cc: "rfi" <rfi@contesting.com> 
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:37:17 PM 
> Subject: Re: [RFI] LED lighting fixtures - 
> 
> Hi Gary, 
> 
> My following comments don't answer Hank's question, but they are related to 
> your topic of LED tube lights. 
> 
> I replaced my magnetic ballast driven tubes that hang over my electronics 
> workbench in the basement with LED tubes that operate directly off of 120 
> Vac, and now I pick up all kinds of trash on my oscilloscope display when 
> making low level signal measurements on my testbench, and I now often work 
> in the dark (: 
> 
> I also hear the RFI from these tubes when testing antennas (testing small 
> DF loops, etc.) inside the house in a room on our second floor above the 
> basement and on the opposite side of the house and I'm at least 40 feet 
> away from the LED tube lights, and some of the RFI is likely conducted 
> through the house wiring. 
> 
> Can't find a manufacturer's name on my LED tube lights, but the model 
> number is WENT84SUA-18WB-50CF, and I still see them being sold online. 
> 
> Just FYI, and YMMV. 
> Don (wd8dsb) 
> 
>> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 9:48 AM Gary <gary_mayfield@hotmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> Hank, 
>> 
>> I have had nary a problem replacing mine with L.E.D. tubes that 
>> work from 120 Volts. I have been using tubes from 'batteries plus bulbs'. 
>> You do have to remove/bypass the ballast. 
>> 
>> I have no interest in the company other than being a customer, and 
>> your mileage may vary. 
>> 
>> 73, 
>> Joe kk0sd 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: RFI <rfi-bounces+gary_mayfield=hotmail.com@contesting.com> On 
>> Behalf Of HP 
>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 1:40 AM 
>> To: rfi <rfi@contesting.com> 
>> Subject: [RFI] LED lighting fixtures - 
>> 
>> I have 4 two tube 50+ year old T12-30 36 inch fixtures that have the old 
>> magnetic ballasts - one has a failed ballast and looking for magnetic 
>> replacement ballasts looks like they are close to non- obtainium. There are 
>> plenty of "electronic" replacement ballasts - 
>> 
>> Philips Advance Ballast RELB-2S40-N 
>> 3.6 Ballast shall comply with the requirements of the Federa l 
>> Communications Commission (FCC) rules and regulations, Title 47 CFR part 
>> 18, Consumer (Class B) for EMI/RFI (conducted and radiated) 
>> 2.5 Ballast shall be high frequency electronic type and op erate lamps at 
>> a frequency above 42 kHz to avoid interference w ith infrared devices and 
>> eliminate visible flicker. 
>> 
>> I read the paper by W1MG on Home Depot selling "industrial " ballasts vs 
>> "residential" but nowhere does it say a "residential" ballast is in fact RF 
>> quiet in our uses. 
>> 
>> Anyone know if if this Phillips RELB-2S40N is quiet . Are there any 
>> brands/part numbers of "electronic" ballasts known to be RF quiet ? 
>> 
>> 
>> Hank K7HP 
>> 
>> 
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