Yes, Kurt, I've run into the "Letter of Confidentiality" too many times. I
just wish China would go away in these sort of things. In my small EMC/RFI
consulting business, I refuse to work with China or anything from China
resident in a US storefront. Do I dare mention Supermicro??
Dave - WØLEV
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 8:24 PM KD7JYK DM09 <kd7jyk@earthlink.net> wrote:
> "I didn't have to do anything special, Dave. I just typed in KE3 in the
> grantee box and scrolled down the resultant list until I saw the full ID
> number.
> It was about 75% down the list if 116 items that KE3 has certificated.
> Perhaps you simply overlooked it."
>
> I look up FCC ID #'s, and grantee codes often, sometimes up to several
> times a day. For at least fifteen years, I can tell you, more often
> than not, you will NOT get a result with the full number, entered as
> indicated.
>
> Don't waste you time, life, breath, what-have-you, expecting it to work
> right the first time, or at all.
>
> Don't get me wrong, sometimes it does, and even then, may not work more
> than once or twice in a row, or work again an hour, or day later, if
> ever again. Why? No idea, other than it's something the FCC is running
> as best they can.
>
> I recommend the following:
>
> I suggest using their "Advanced Search", which is labeled "generic" in
> their own link:
>
> https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm
>
> Enter the first three digits of the code.
>
> If that ultimately doesn't work, enter the first five. Although there
> was a change from 3 to 5 digits in grantee codes, the system doesn't
> specify which codes, when, or to whom, and five-digit grantee codes on
> devices are often written as 3, the "norm", then a hyphen, or not. To
> make matters worse, some legitimate three digit codes were re-printed as
> five on products. If three doesn't work, try five, and see what
> happens, and good luck, you still may not get a result.
>
> The rest of the code often doesn't work, even if you find it later, and
> enter it as the FCC has it in their own database, provided to you. What
> they say, think, tell, or show you, has nothing to do with you, what you
> have, what you think, what to expect, what they'll do next, if at all,
> ever, et cetera... You enter ABC 12345, no results. You enter ABC, and
> they return ABC 12345, you enter again, since it's clearly there,
> nothing. Copy and paste, nothing, try again later, maybe something, or
> not.
>
> I recommend entering the first three digits of the FCC ID#, or grantee
> code at the top, nothing more, setting the number of results to return
> to something like 100, 250, or 500, and searching the results with
> whatever "word find" you have, to find the rest of the unique code. For
> my browser, it's Edit -> Find In Page.
>
> If that doesn't work, go back, and try the first 5 digits of the code.
>
> If THAT doesn't work, keep in mind, that for the past several decades,
> the FCC doesn't list everything, and before a certain point, nothing at
> all. Some time ago, the extent of the "code" on a device was
> "Accepted", "Type Accepted", "FCC DATA #1" (guess how many items had
> that?), or anything else on a product that suggested something. And
> more often, more recently, they've been cutting deals with companies to
> keep items unlisted, or worse, list the item, and provide nothing more
> than a notice of confidentiality, so you know it's there, you're just
> getting boned because some corporate flunky sent a form letter to the
> FCC requesting they hide their product info, and a comparable FCC flunky
> said, "OK".
>
> Form letter? Yeah. In old records, you'd see a formally filed request,
> and review, or hearing transcripts, with case response, as it's all
> public record. Now, you'll see the same systematic documentation
> process, with a fill-in-the-blank letter downloaded off the web,
> sometimes only partially filled, but things like <ENTER COMPANY NAME
> HERE>, <ENTER JOB TITLE> left on the form, missing signatures, companies
> that don't exist, dates a few years into the future, partially completed
> info, et cetera, followed by the FCC approval letter, and rubber stamp
> watermarks. Dig around enough, and you may find some receipts,
> 'Confidentiality letter filed - Remittance $300 - Approved', or
> something to that effect.
>
> It's a real cluster.
>
> Kurt
>
>
>
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