Hi,
 just my view as a small pistol contester: If that P5 multiplier works me 
I don't care if he sends me his name and qth and even te name of his 
grand mother and the make of his computer. For all te others please 
hurry up :-)
Just kidding...
 The only thing we can do is to try and give the good example. Make the 
exchanges as short as possible and for me that means finishing the QSO 
with 'OH2BH TU OQ6A CQ'
Noone will be offended by this I guess?
And an other courtesy: I answer all qsl!
Op 3/10/2013 19:22, Robert Chudek - K0RC schreef:
 
Jeff,
 I understand and agree with your assessment of overall contest 
exchange efficiency. I smile at the "GL" that is often included in the 
exchange. Fortunately, I am *not* counting on "Luck", whether good or 
bad, to fulfill my contest goal of achieving the maximum score 
possible within the time I have available to operate.
 But that aside, CQWW solicited people to complete an online poll 
regarding their contest experiences and thoughts last spring. The 
results of that poll were posted a while back, here: 
http://cqww.com/blog/?p=150
The very first question was:
 *Which is the best description of your operating interest in the CQ WW 
Contest?
*
Serious competitor trying to win a certificate or plaque:
1675 - 31.6%
Part time operator trying for the highest score possible
1831 - 34.6%
Chasing contacts for awards:
546 - 10.3%
Having fun and giving points to other:
1023 - 19.3%
Other:
217 - 4.1%
Total
5292 - 100%
 I suspect most of the fellows on this reflector fall into one of the 
first two responses. But when you total the last three categories, 
one-third of the operators in your log are less likely to know or care 
about contest exchange efficiency.
 As someone stated before, I am not overly concerned with making a 
contact in a 'less than efficient' manner when that QSO will be 
multiplied by the number of multipliers in my log. I have been known 
to hit the Ctrl+K combination and type a personal response from time 
to time... most often to a friend who I know or a station who is 
obviously not in the league of WØYK, or AA5AU, or K3LR, or K9CT, or... 
etc.
 I do believe it is good to discuss operator efficiencies in general 
and it will help those in the last 1/3 to move up into the 2/3 area 
when they choose to change their contesting focus.
73 de Bob - KØRC in MN
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On 10/3/2013 11:26 AM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
 The format for the best exchange is pretty well fine-tuned.  And as 
with the /QRP, the more stuff you put on the line, the more 
unproductive it is.  GL is another example of that.  The direct cost 
is in the time it takes to send the GL and the space.  Multiplied 
times the number of QSO exchanges. The indirect cost is present also, 
for example a guy misprinting GL for something else in rough copy 
times and needing a repeat, or waiting, or skipping you to move onto 
the next guy causing you to miss a potential mult, etc.  So we have 
to add in some more time wasted that would be hard to figure out but 
must be present.
 This discussion thread on courtesy reminds me of the Pamplona bull 
races. When it's go-time, guys there are focused on the task and 
there is no time for pleasantries.  Nor should any be expected. It's 
a serious activity. And people who are there needing the 
touchie-feelie chit-chat would be well advised to stay off the 
streets when that event is happening.  For guys who want to "try it" 
- then they should respect the tradition enough to take a look at the 
way things are normally done.  Penalties in the bull races are severe 
and immediate - so runners are probably well motivated to prepare well.
 And while the penalty for not doing the RTTY exchange right does not 
cause a sudden rise in calcuim content as in the bull run case, the 
point is similar.  This kind of contest is needs to have maximum 
efficiency in mind as a priority.  A key goal of the contest is the 
maximum number of QSO in the allotted time, especially for those 
running un-assisted.  So anything that digresses from that key goal 
should properly be excluded.  And that includes unnecessary exchange 
elements (e.g. GL), problem causing unnecessary data exchange 
elements (e.g. /QRP) and confusion adding elements (e.g. DE when it's 
not your state).
73/jeff/ac0c
www.ac0c.com
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Magarelli
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:47 AM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Courtesy
 Following this courtesy on RTTY discussion line. I had the thought, 
would
it be to much time and data
not to only send TU but add GL to the courtesy response so it could
be TU GL
Just a thought.  Would like to hear the Groups thoughts TNX
Thomas (aka Tom)
WA2PNI
-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of W4GKM
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:55 AM
To: john; rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Courtesy
 I go by Nick, but you can call me Nicholas or anything else, just as 
long as
you call me.  I appreciate all contacts.
-----Original Message-----
From: john
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:40 AM
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Courtesy
try "clyde",,, I go by john  w8wej
On 10/3/2013 02:08, Tom Osborne wrote:
 I know what  you mean Hank.  It grits me when someone sends 'Hi 
Thomas.'
I
never use that name.  73
Tom W7WHY
There is NOTHING I hate more than people who doesn't know me from
Adam, greeting me in a contest as Henry. Obviously, they don't know me
because the only one who ever called me Henry was my mother and then
only when she was mad.
Artificial, imposed-by-rules, friendliness is worse than meaningless.
It's stupid.
Artificial,
do-it-because-your-super-dooper-software-allows-you-to-do-it,
friendliness is worse than meaningless, It's stupid.
73,
Hank, W6SX
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