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Re: [RTTY] [rckskimmer] RTTY-spots spamming the DX-Cluster

To: rckskimmer@yahoogroups.com, RTTY Contesting <RTTY@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] [rckskimmer] RTTY-spots spamming the DX-Cluster
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 05:51:02 -0400
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See Walter's reply, Joe. The parallel, I guess, is that someone is manipulating the spots coming from the RBN so as to drop the -# SSID and the CQ in the comment, to make them appear to be human spots. Hard to understand the motivation for doing so, but hopefully Walter's RTTY world broadcast will persuade him to stop it.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
http://reversebeacon.net,
blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
For spots, please go to your favorite
ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.

On 10/19/2013 9:46 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


> Joe, I don't see the parallel with W3LPL-3,

The parallel with W3LPL-3 is because the spots are unwanted.

> What is DCS?

I presume it is Digital Cluster System - the acronym was used
by DL4RCK.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 10/19/2013 9:30 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> Joe, I don't see the parallel with W3LPL-3, because people's complaint
> about his re-spots is that they could be from anywhere in North
> America. Nonetheless, we'll look into the issue.
>
> What is DCS? Sounds like I'm missing a piece of the puzzle.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
> http://reversebeacon.net,
> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
> For spots, please go to your favorite
> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>
> On 10/19/2013 3:15 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> Pete,
>>
>> > Is there some reason why this is cause for complaint?
>>
>> Although I was not one who sent comments to Walter, the biggest
>> complaint I have is that those spots were placed on the general
>> cluster feed without any identification that they were "skimmer
>> spots." This is along the lines of W3LPL's reposting of CW spots.
>>
>> If the DCS nodes were identified with the -# "SSID" in the same
>> way as other RBN nodes, cluster operators or individual stations
>> using the proper software could suppress display of the "garbage"
>> and prevent them from swamping spots from "local" spotters more
>> likely to post stations that can actually be heard/worked and/or
>> spots for other modes for those *not* interested in JARTS.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 10/19/2013 2:58 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>>> Walter, it is a historical accident that the Reverse Beacon Network's DX >>> Spider Telnet node is known by its SSID as WB5VZL-1, because it is on a >>> server provided by the former holder of that call, who now goes by K5TR
>>> of contesting.com.
>>>
>>> What does this mean? Any spots on that Telnet node were uploaded to it
>>> by individual amateurs using RCKSkimmer software, and then collected
>>> from that Telnet node by someone on the CLX system. Our role in this is
>>> passive, except that we decided, soon after you released the software,
>>> to carry RTTY and PSK spots on the RBN and to identify them by their
>>> mode.
>>>
>>> Is there some reason why this is cause for complaint?
>>>
>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
>>> http://reversebeacon.net,
>>> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
>>> For spots, please go to your favorite
>>> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
>>>
>>> On 10/19/2013 9:36 AM, Walter Dallmeier wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I got a lot of "sharp" emails concerning the RTTY spots on the CLX
>>>> (DX-Cluster-System).
>>>>
>>>> The logs are showing, that the RTTY-Skimmer-Spots from the isolated
>>>> Digital-Cluster-System are forwarded by WB5VZL-1 to the
>>>> WWW-Cluster-System.
>>>> I don't know where he is connected, but not to the DCS.
>>>>
>>>> I will stop the whole DCS until this very bad configuration of WB5VZL-1
>>>> leave the system.
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Walter, DL4RCK
>>>>
>>>> Walter Dallmeier
>>>> www.dl4rck.de
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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