He may be working you only for an award using LOTW and if you don't
log him, he loses it.
I would log him. Although ARRL's recommended QSL card includes the
RST, I would bet that a QSO is valid even without one during the QSO
real time. If he wanted credit for you for an award like WAS, he
could send your RST with the QSL .
Since I run high power, I know he would have sent 599 anyway, so I
log him that way ;-)
I always have the option of not claiming credit for him when I send
the log to the contest, but leaving it in for LOTW.
Contest committees and awards committees should drop the RST. It
meant a lot in the 1920's - not so much now.
Jerry W4UK
At 06:58 AM 2/19/2016, John Barber wrote:
Contest supervisors generally don't handle these situations because the log
sent in will have the RST 'sent' and received. The way to stop it happening
is to ask for the RST to be sent, not just assume 599.
If you don't receive the RST, you don't log the contact. It's not valid ...
and if you send in your log with a report that you didn't actually copy, you
are also breaking the rules.
Or get the ridiculous automatic 599 removed from the exchange .. see BARTG
Sprint and a few others!
John GW4SKA
-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Sent: 17 February 2016 21:47
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
Obviously not sending the RST is a violation and I am not sure how the
contest supervisors handle those situations. I do not place my call at the
end of the exchange, I do send my exchange (serial #) twice.
During S&P I only send my call. The other station knows his/her call.
My macros have evolved over time with input from W0YK and AA5AU. I am
just glad that the other station responds to my CQ. The format of their
message is something I cannot control. Everything you mention is stuff we
have all seen and is just part of the "game".
Have Fun that is what it is all about. There is very little you can do
about what the other station is sending or not sending.
Rich
K3RWN
On 2/17/2016 15:28 PM, David Tanks via RTTY wrote:
> Hello all. I have a couple of pet peeves to voice:
> 1. Some operators do not send the RST report that is required of some,
> not all, contests. I work them anyway, even though they are clearly
> breaking the rules to save milliseconds off of each contact
>
>
> The 2016 CQ World-Wide WPX RTTY Contest February 13-14, 2016 " IV.
> CONTEST EXCHANGE: RST report plus a progressive contact serial number
starting with 001 for the first contact. Note: Multi-Two and Multi-Unlimited
entrants use separate serial number sequences on each band. ".
> 2. Sometimes, there is an extended time period from when I send my call to
a running station to the time that he sends my call with the report; before
he starts sending the report, I have figured he hasn't heard me and send my
call again. When the software finishes, I hear the running station sending a
report; however, they have not set up their exchange to send the caller's
call at the end of it, so all I see on my screen is " 599 123 123 " . Now,
is he replying to me, or has someone snuck in there with me? Who knows? All
I can do is stand by until the running station again sends the exchange,
with the calling station's call displayed at the beginning. It seems a waste
of time to not include the calling stations's call at the end of the
exchange.
> 3. With excellent band conditions and signal strengths, an exchange of "
AD4TJ 599 123 " may be sufficient. However, how many timjes does that
happen? If just a little something interferes, then the serial number only
being sent once is not enough. And, at that, sometimes they don't even send
my call, just 599 123. Are they answering me, or someone else?
>
> I would appreciate hearing from the experienced RTTY contestors on what
they think is proper, concerning these items.
> 73, David AD4TJ
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