Bob,
I am not sure if it is a good analogy or not, but all I am saying is I think
we could expect more if we were paying for it.
All I feel I am entitled to is what I got when I opened the box. Any
improvements beyond that are a bonus and I do not feel they are owed to me.
As far as being able to "do it yourself". Well I guess that is debatable
too. One might consider it good business on Ten Tecs part not allowing you
to do this. I have built my business around proprietory stuff because I
don't want my customers doing it themselves. Is that unethical or unfair?
No, I don't think so, that is just business.
That said, I understand your frustrations :)
Rich
----- Original Message -----
From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
To: "Rich McCabe" <rich@1967z28.com>; <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re: Jupiter firmware problems...NOT! (SO!... )
> That's a bad analogy. The updates are 'free' in the sense that I do not
> have to pay any additional money for them.
>
> Under the DMCA I can not legally reverse engineer TenTec's
> SW in order to make a modification. I would have to rewrite the
> whole mess from scratch! This is a severely limits my interest
> in owning such a radio. Add a fee structure to updates that
> I might like to make myself and share with other hams and I've
> no interest in owning the radio.
>
> Why should "we as hams" expect "them" to continually
> improve a radio once we've purchased it? We should be
> doing this ourselves.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich McCabe" <rich@1967z28.com>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re: Jupiter firmware problems...NOT! (SO!... )
>
>
> > " I do not like the idea of paying for software updates which are now
> free,
> > without something in exchange"
> >
> > That is kinda like saying I do not like paying for automobiles when
> walking
> > is currently free. That may be the case for some, and I am not sure
> exactly
> > why you think you are "entitled to something in exchange". Did I miss
> TenTec
> > making the statement that updates will always be free? I honestly do not
> > know, so that is a question.
> >
> > I would rather fund TenTec with a annual fee so they can do more with
what
> I
> > already own. How can we as hams expect them to continually improve (for
> > free) software for products they have already sold. What is the
incentive
> in
> > that?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tongaloa" <tongaloa@alltel.net>
> > To: "Duane Grotophorst" <n9dg@yahoo.com>; "Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX"
> > <RMcGraw@blomand.net>; "Howard smith" <jsmith20@wi.rr.com>;
> > <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re: Jupiter firmware problems...NOT! (SO!... )
> >
> >
> > > I do not like the idea of paying for software updates which are
> > > now free, without something in exchange. That something being
> > > a lower price on the hardware and an open source approach to the
> > > software so that we could 'roll our own' tweaks. Under a GPL type
> > > license, TenTec would benefit from third party effort applied to the
> > > code because it is written for their radios!
> > >
> > > I for one would be all over a <$500 computer controlled receiver
> > > built around a single SHARC processor if I had access to the source
> > > code to add to and modify at will. I suspect there would be a huge
> > > crossover of computer hobbiests who are interested in DSP and TenTec
> > > would see huge sales compared to their traditional amateur market.
> > >
> > > A significant number of these purchasers will become interested
> > > enough in ham radio to want a transmitter as well. A rising tide
> > > of purchasers for all TT products!
> > >
> > > If TT does not follow this course, someone else will.
> > >
> > > Bob wb4mnf
> > >
> > >
> > >
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