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[TenTec] Will W5YR be back?

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Subject: [TenTec] Will W5YR be back?
From: k2rig@comcast.net (Bill Nicolson)
Date: Tue Feb 11 11:41:15 2003
Very well said Duane!!
Bill K2rig

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Grotophorst" <n9dg@yahoo.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Will W5YR be back?


> 
> No doubt he has wealth of knowledge and is very
> interesting fellow to debate with, I have done just
> that several times in the past, - both on and off this
> list. It's his propensity to put a pro Icom spin on
> almost everything while subtly (and sometimes not so
> subtly) criticizing TT as a company and its radios in
> general that raises the ire of many on this list. And
> also a tendency to frequently state things as fact
> when they are in reality just subjective
> speculation/opinion rankles many list readers as well.
> Regardless there was no place for the outright
> personal attacking flames that there were, that's
> simply uncalled for, and degrades everybody.
> 
> I personally found many of his posts to be a fun
> challenge to pick apart and debate on point by point
> basis; - they literally begged to be challenged. Too
> bad the "Public Opinion" thread stopped when it did, I
> had just finished a rather lengthy treatise of its
> many points myself when George realized his "private"
> response - wasn't. It's complete with a wealth of my
> own spin and FUD (Fear Uncertainty and Doubt)
> regarding the JA companies :-).
> 
> Bottom line is this is a "discussion board" and things
> are meant to be open for discussion and debate, it may
> even get rather heated at times, but it should always
> remain civil regardless of what anyone says.
> 
> Duane
> N9DG
> 
> 
> --- MHelm64279@aol.com wrote:
> > Greetings all--
> > 
> > First, let me say "thank you" to those who have made
> > this a great place for 
> > me to come and learn more about Ten-Tec and amateur
> > radio in general.  I've 
> > been reading the list pretty faithfully for a few
> > years now.  Having said 
> > that...
> > 
> > I must also say that I am somewhat disturbed at the
> > thought of W5YR being 
> > driven away from this list.  Certainly no one
> > "blacklisted" him or anything 
> > like that, but obviously some of the flaming that
> > occured recently created an 
> > environment in which he felt unwelcome enough to
> > stop posting.  Can any 
> > reasonable person look back at George's
> > contributions to this list and not 
> > feel like we've lost something vital?
> > 
> > I think George possesses a store of technical
> > knowledge and understanding 
> > matched only by a select few others on this group
> > and he has a unique ability 
> > to explain some pretty complex concepts in a way
> > that 
> > non-electrical-engineers (like myself) can grasp.  I
> > have learned so much 
> > from George's posts and have certainly benefitted
> > from the time he has 
> > invested here.  The collective knowledge on this
> > list is truly amazing, and I 
> > have seen the discussion raised to a pretty lofty
> > level on occasion--kind of 
> > like the few "resident geniuses" we have here
> > bringing out the best in each 
> > other.  It can be pretty awe-inspiring when that
> > happens and it seems as if 
> > George is usually involved when it does.  I think I
> > would miss his 
> > contribution to that process.
> > 
> > On the other side of the coin, he will often take
> > the time to give a thorough 
> > explanation of some basic principals to someone if
> > they ask a relatively 
> > simple question.  I don't know George, but he just
> > seems to me to be someone 
> > who really loves electronics and radio--and after
> > almost 60 yrs in ham radio 
> > he's still fascinated by it.  I like that...and I'd
> > be crazy not to want him 
> > around here so that I could pick his brains and take
> > advantage of everything 
> > he's always brought to this list.
> > 
> > Although I'm a happy Ten-Tec owner (Omni V), no one
> > manufacturer has all the 
> > answers. To me, George's perspective on the relative
> > strengths and weaknesses 
> > of various brands is quite refreshing.  Ten-Tec
> > doesn't exist in a vacuum.  
> > Personally, I find it very interesting to look at
> > how different manufacturers 
> > implement the newer technologies.  George brings A
> > LOT to those discussions 
> > and I think it's fascinating to compare Ten-Tec's
> > approach to all the others.
> > 
> > Anyway...George, I hope you'll be back.
> > 
> > I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way.
> > 
> > 73.........Mark (N3OZM)
> 
> 
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