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[TenTec] Re: Roofing Filters and DSP BW

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Subject: [TenTec] Re: Roofing Filters and DSP BW
From: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
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Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 10:58:37 -0400
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Regarding Ten Tec filters, for any that are interested I did find the following comments in the documentation for the CDG2000 receiver project at:

 
http://www.warc.org.uk/cdg2000/post%20mixer%20amp%20and%20filters/Part%203%20post%20mixer%20amplifier%20V4.doc
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The prototypes used filters manufactured by IQD, type 90H2.4B for the wide filter and 91H250 for the narrow filter. Testing on the prototypes yielded a very high IP3 for both filters with the CW filter surprisingly good at over +45 dBm. These are no longer manufactured although JAB [1] may still have limited supplies of the wide filter. A search of the Internet revealed two sources of 9 MHz filters, the first was found at Ten-Tec [2]. These ladder filters are available at several 6dB bandwidths, namely 2400, 1800, 500 and 250 Hz. The input and output impedances are both 200 ohms compared with 500 ohms for the IQD filters, and the matching networks will have to be changed. We tried the model 220 for 2400 Hz and model 217 for 500 Hz. The insertion loss is 2.2dB for the 2400Hz filter and 7.5 dB for the narrow. These losses are lower than the IQD filters by about 2 dB but the intercept point is not as good. Also, the centre frequency was slightly higher than 9 MHz and did not match the bandpass of the roofing filters. The obvious conclusion is that if these filters are used then similar filters (type 220) could also be used for the roofing filters on the front end board although this would seriously degrade the IP3 capability of the receiver. The second source was found at International Radio Corporation [3]. This firm manufacture replacement filters for most Amateur radios which are claimed to have superior performance to those originally supplied. We would suggest the use of reference 2310 for the wide filter and reference 2304 for the narrow. These filters have the same Zin / Zout as the IQD filters originally used and should need no change to the design. Failing the use of commercial filters, home made filters can be used. As a start, the roofing filters used in the front end can be copied and modified to cover the relevant passband. International Radio Corporation also supply kits for 9 MHz filters and we have obtained two of these with satisfactory, if not outstanding results. These are reference 350 and 351 which are each 4 pole. Two of these can be wired in series to produce 8 pole filters. The Zin / Zout is 200 ohms and some slight modification to the matching circuits would have to be made. The cost of the kits is roughly half that of manufactured filters. If DSP is to be incorporated, then the CW filter is perhaps not essential but is still desirable.




References



[1] JAB P.O. Box 5774, Birmingham B44 8PJ, telephone +44 (0)121 682 7045

[2] <http://www.tentec.com/>http://www.tentec.com

[3] http://www.qth.com/inrad

Still looking!

Bill  W4ZV

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