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Subject: [TenTec] BPL suit
From: "WD4K" <WD4K2@charter.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:56:13 -0500
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After reading BPL comments both here and on Towertalk for weeks, no one has
come up with a solution. As much as I disagree with most Attorneys (even my
brother in law), I watched a small claim against one of the worlds largest
oil companies move up from the small claim which got no attention, to a
multi million dollar class action suit. Believe me, it got the
attention...Problem solved. My paralegal sister in law worked for the filing
attorney..I got a front row seat.
All of the letters being written are great, however they are like tiny fleas
on a big dog. Merely an irritation. Segway to the 1000-100,000-200,000 (pick
a number) hams and communications equipment users simply signing a paper
agreeing to be plantiffs in a class action suit against the manufacturers,
distributors ( your local electric service, hint hint!), and suppliers of
BPL systems for legal violations, loss of use of equipment and investment,
etc...you get the picture.... and now you have a voice.
I would guess if the supporters and distributors of BPL knew this was being
discussed by all users of communications equipment, including hams, there
would be some second guessing happening rather quickly. I know if I were an
investor in BPL and the rumor was out that a group was planning a 500
million-one Billion (pick a number) dollar class action suit that involved
me and my investment...I would be sticking to the mutual funds or waiting
for the Google IPO.  Their achilles heel may be near to their investors
wallets. You guys are fighting bears with a bb gun...you need a bigger
weapon or you're dead before you start. My two cents...Tommy WD4K

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: omni d (John T. Fleming)
   2. new set of paddles for my Jupiter (jdanter)
   3. Re: new set of paddles for my Jupiter (Duane A Calvin)
   4. RE: BPL & Bush (Richard Detweiler)
   5. Re: new set of paddles for my Jupiter (Ken Brown)
   6. Broadband over Powerline (BPL) (Arthur Bernstein)
   7. [Fwd: BPL = Disaster in the making] (Ken Brown)
   8. Re: Broadband over Powerline (BPL) (holden)
   9. Re: Studio 1 Mic Paint Job!! (Jeff Griffin)
  10. RE: omni d (JOHN)
  11. For sale = Corsair II, ps, all filters, etc. (g)
  12. BPL  (k4dlj@bellsouth.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:17:07 -0500
From: "John T. Fleming" <W3GQJ@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: RE: [TenTec] omni d
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
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John,

I put the mod in my Omni D, Series B when the band became available.  Try
contacting Ten-Tec and see if they still have any of the kits.  Somewhere I
still have the instructions for installing it and there is probably a parts
list.  If Ten-Tec does not have it, I could scan what I have and email it.

73,
John

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On Behalf Of JOHN
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:28 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] omni d

A friend of mine n3dwb, recently purchased and omni d , he can receive on
30m
but can transmit, is there a mod for this
thanks ahead of time
73 john ku3g


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:40:03 -0400
From: "jdanter" <jdanter@mail.i-america.net>
Subject: [TenTec] new set of paddles for my Jupiter
To: "TenTec List" <tentec@contesting.com>
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John,

No experience with the spring action, Bencher,
or the Kent, magnetic.

I do have a Vibroplex Brass Racer, magnetic.

Only problem with the Racer was the magnets tended to pull through the
housing, and stick to the paddles.
My fix was to slightly stretch the tension springs for the magnets.

Take a look at the keys and paddles Marshall Emm
has for sale on his website:
http://www.mtechnologies.com/

I have the Russian ElectroInstrument Key-8.
It is a robust designed key, that has individual spring tension adjustments
for both the dot and dash keys.
Beautifully chromed brass body, with large paddles.
It does have an internal keyer, but the keyer is NOT iambic.
The keyer WILL repeat dots and dashes,
and I find it satisfactory, considering its limitations.
You can also bypass the internal keyer and use your favorite outboard keyer.
See Marshall's notes on the key.

I also have the Vibroplex/Ten-Tec Limited Edition Iambic standard.
Only improvement would be the larger paddle set Vibroplex offers.
If you find one of these, you may consider upgrading to Deluxe specs.
Check the W5JAY website for the upgrade info:
http://www.w5jay.net/vibroplex/index.htm

Jamie NE4TT

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:13:26 -0500
From: Duane A Calvin <ac5aa@juno.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] new set of paddles for my Jupiter
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <20040429.221408.2600.1.ac5aa@juno.com>
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I'll put one more plug in for the Begali Simplex.  It is a
spring-activated paddle, but you won't find a better one, and I think the
magnetics are often more tricky to get set properly.  The Begali has a
wide range of settings available, but it's extremely precise, and once
you have it set up, it doesn't change.  A beautiful job.  Check them out
at www.i2rtf.com, and be sure to read the reviews on eham:
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2665   A very excellent paddle for
$137.  Just a few bucks more than a chrome plated Bencher, and worlds
above it in construction and feel.  I sold my Schurr Profi 2 after I got
this one!

        73,  Duane

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Duane Calvin, AC5AA
Austin, Texas

http://home.austin.rr.com/ac5aa


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:16:01 -0500
From: "Richard Detweiler" <rdetweil@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [TenTec] BPL & Bush
To: tentec@contesting.com
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Hi Bill,

Thanks for your reply,

The rule changes is one issue that can cause a long term problem,

Yet the increase cost in electricity to 'fund' the BPL is another,

We are all banking on the hope that BPL on HF will not do well economically,

yet if the power company draws funds from every electricity user, then that
hope is gone too.

If they are limited to a percentage profit on electricity,  then they will
move the costs (Losses) into 'infrastructure' costs, and charge all of us
for it.

73's
Rich
K5SF


>From: "Bill Rowlett" <kc4atu@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: tentec@contesting.com
>To: tentec@contesting.com
>Subject: RE: [TenTec] BPL & Bush
>Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 01:16:36 +0000
>
>Richard and all,
>
>Yes, BPL is a done deal because it can be and is being put into operation
>under the present PART 15 RULES. It is these rules that they want to
>change. It is the rule changes we are fighting, NOT BPL.
>
>The large power companies who have a pile of stock holders to answer to are
>the ones which may play with it but than give up when the return on the
>investment is too low. The small, local power companies who need a new
>money maker may be the ones to stick with BPL.
>
>But again, it is the rule changes which favor BPL that we are fighting, BPL
>is here to stay. Hopefully not forever though. Just wait until the first
>user is fried because of a malfunction in the little black box.
>
>73,  Bill  kc4atu
>QRP, doing more with less
>FM19ga
>
>
>
>>From: "Richard Detweiler" <rdetweil@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: tentec@contesting.com
>>To: tentec@contesting.com
>>Subject: RE: [TenTec] BPL & Bush
>>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:17:39 -0500
>>
>>Hi Dave,
>>
>>Thanks for your reply,
>>
>>I agree that for now it is pretty much a done deal.
>>
>>One point I want to say is that trying to focus on the 'technical' issues
>>is the wrong place in this environment.  The Tech side is well stated, if
>>not looked at.
>>
>>There is an econimic side, with possibility of 'scandal' written all over
>>it.  If we were to exploit that to people like Kerry it could become an
>>election issue or at least a bruise to the president.
>>
>>Can you imagine the media attention if millions of workers knew their
>>electric bill was going up because some president wanted broadband?
>>
>>73's
>>Rich
>>K5SF
>>
>>
>>>From: <k4dlj@bellsouth.net>
>>>Reply-To: tentec@contesting.com
>>>To: <TenTec@contesting.com>
>>>Subject: [TenTec] BPL & Bush
>>>Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 18:36:48 -0400
>>>
>>>Richard,
>>>I have never commented here on the TT Group but thought it was about
>>>time.
>>>Gratefully, I have enjoyed many hours of good reading from all.
>>>
>>>We all must understand when the Commander and Cheif want it... It will be
>>>done.
>>>This is a very determined to be sucessful fellow and has every intention
>>>of making Mr. Powell a ISP hero. In addition, as we all know the Bush
>>>Cheney Crew
>>>are very much involved with the energy folks.. AKA as Haleberton.
>>>GW is a pretty sharp chap and would think he would want to be aware of
>>>any possible glitch in the Homeland Security Communications systems in
>>>addition to NTSF issues. Maybe Mr. Ridge needs a talkin too as well,
>>>being Homeland Security being a very big issue on the hill.
>>>
>>>The best hope we have is the technical issues. As mentioned here on the
>>>NG, the Washington folk do not have any technical backround. Somehow, we
>>>all need to get  the techinical issues to the White House so they are
>>>presented properly insteed of be laid out by a bunch of lawyers who again
>>>are not technically educated in addition to beating on our local Senate
>>>and Congress folks doors.
>>>
>>>Plus a few prayers...
>>>Best 73/DX de Dave K4DLJ
>>>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:59:18 -1000
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] new set of paddles for my Jupiter
To: tentec@contesting.com
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Hi John,

I have a Bencher and a Kent. I prefer the Kent. It is solidly built. It
has small spiral springs. I must admit that I did not think it used
magnets. Now that I look at it I see where there may be some magnets. It
certainly does not have an objectionable sticky feel to it that some
paddles using magnets may have. I would buy it again.

Ken N6KB




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 01:00:36 -0400
From: Arthur Bernstein <n2ka@optonline.net>
Subject: [TenTec] Broadband over Powerline (BPL)
To: president@whitehouse.gov, tentec@contesting.com
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Dear Mr. President,
I'm writing to you today because I am very concerned about an issue that
 may have numerous negative ramifications for us as a nation.
Specifically, there is in the works, a new technology called Broadband
over Powerlines or BPL, for short. As you are probably aware, the
premise behind this technology is the easy and allegedly economical
access to the Internet for those in this country who are not served by
high speed Internet services such as cable or DSL.
Coming from a technical background, I have come to discover that this
technology,  wherein broadband signals carrying Internet activity will
be transmitted over exposed power lines, is indeed a faulty and ill
conceived technology. It is a technology that HAS BEEN SHOWN to produce
wideband and indeed potentially wideranging  interference to
communications systems, be they military, commercial, public safety
(such as FEMA), amateur and others. This interference is not to taken
lightly. In these days of national vigilance against our enemies from
abroad, we DO NOT need any aiding or abetting our enemies from within
our borders! This technology WILL compromise communications systems due
to the interference it creates. This interference will mask the
intelligibility of urgent signals. Basically BPL is an unlicensed
 system  creating interference to licensed services (Part 15.) Notching
or selective filtering of these signals has not been shown to be
effective. Furthermore, the maintenance and upkeep for preventing
interfernece to other services would be a monumental and not economical
process. Ignoring this fact will be disasterous!! Whatever economic
gains there might be for the power companies involved, are far
overshadowed by the detriment offered to National Security. This is
very short sighted in its scope. It is my feeling that too many people
in government, including FCC Commissioner Powell, are just not attuned
to the technical side and instead have been locked into the potential
economic gains of this technology. Regarding economics, it appears that
the startup and maintenance costs for this technology will be
considerable. In order to be competitive with other Internet services,
these costs will have to be absorbed some place. Surely NOT by the
subscribers. In all liklihood, the costs will be passed on to the
ratepayers of electric service, whether they use BPL or not. Now that's
just NOT fair. It's UN AMERICAN!
Mr. President, my voice is a small one. There are over 293 million small
voices in this great land. Let's preserve our national security and
great nation.
God Bless.
Sincerely,
Arthur Bernstein



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:46:35 -1000
From: Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@verizon.net>
Subject: [TenTec] [Fwd: BPL = Disaster in the making]
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <4091F64B.1020100@verizon.net>
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  (sent to US Representative, Ed Case)

Hi Ed,

A new technology for delivering broadband internet service to households
is be promoted by George Bush and others. The FCC, who is responsible
for regulating the use of radio frequency spectrum, for the best benefit
of Americans, is acting more as a cheerleader than a regulator for this
flawed technology. The problem with BPL (broadband over power lines) is
that it uses radio frequency spectrum that is uniquely suited for long
distance communcations and is an irreplaceable national and
international resource. BPL uses powerlines for communcations. On the
surface it sounds like a great idea. Radio frequency currents on
powerlines WILL RADIATE, causing terrible interference to radio
communcations and broadcast reception in the HF (shortwave) spectrum.
The intererence has already been documented, and in several European
countries and Japan it has been outlawed. Yet in the USA promoters of
BPL are in nearly complete denial of the interference potential and are
rolling out systems in many parts of the country. I urge you to do
whatever you can to stop this dangerous trend. There are many other
technically sound methods of delivering broadband to the masses, without
destroying existing communications resources.

Thank You,

Ken Brown






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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:00:30 -0400
From: holden <holden@nac.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Broadband over Powerline (BPL)
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <409215AE.3CD6625B@nac.net>
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Arthur, your letter forcefully hits the salient points in a non-technical
manner yet does so with a calmness and tact needed to attract attention
without looking like it was written by a crackpot. Your style is a good
example to follow, now I can go write my own. Thanks.

Howie WB2AWQ

Arthur Bernstein wrote:

> Dear Mr. President,
> I'm writing to you today because I am very concerned about an issue that
>  may have numerous negative ramifications for us as a nation.
> Specifically, there is in the works, a new technology called Broadband
> over Powerlines or BPL, for short. As you are probably aware, t



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:28:09 -0400
From: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Studio 1 Mic Paint Job!!
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <013d01c42e95$75f96560$6501a8c0@SERVER>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"

 Hmmmm. Jim, Me and at least 2 other people have the same problem with the
black paint blistering on our Studio One's. I don't think I need a new one
either, as it appears they all do that, so why bother. Or is there a
different paint process used on them now that is more resilient? If so I
might like a replacement Mic. I will be going to Dayton, and could bring my
Studio One with me to show to bob.

73 Jeff kb2m

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From: "Jim Reid" <jimr.reid@verizon.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Studio 1 Mic Paint Job!!


>
>
>
> > Jim, on the Heil paint, I agree with others, contact Bob directly by
email
> > as a start.
>
> Aloha,
>
> Actually,  Bob contacted me first by email!!  Said he
> was alerted to my email to the reflector by no fewer
> that six others!!
>
> I replied that it was ok;   I do not need a replacement
> mike.  It operates just fine!!  And I have five other
> Heil mikes of various ages and element types!!
>
> The only time the paint issue was a bother for me was
> when I was hand holding it.  I have it now in my Heil
> mike boom mount in which the Studio 1 is held in place
> by rubber bands, and you don't even notice the small
> blisters on the paint of the few bitty scratches, from
> finger nail nicks,  I guess.
>
> Have not heard from him since,  which is fine!  He offered
> to replace the unit,  but that is needless cost and effort
> for both of us.
>
> Maybe I am "easy",  but just couldn't see going through
> an exchange when the mike is so great just as it is,  the
> way I use it!
>
> Guess I shouldn't have brought it up at all,  was just surprised
> to see the paint blister.
>
> 73,  Jim  KH7M
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 02:56:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: JOHN <ku3g@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [TenTec] omni d
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <20040430095646.3466.qmail@web60507.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Good morning John and thanks very much for the info , i'll tell him what i
found out and then let him go from there, thanks very much
73 john ku3g

"John T. Fleming" <W3GQJ@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
John,

I put the mod in my Omni D, Series B when the band became available. Try
contacting Ten-Tec and see if they still have any of the kits. Somewhere I
still have the instructions for installing it and there is probably a parts
list. If Ten-Tec does not have it, I could scan what I have and email it.

73,
John

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From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of JOHN
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 8:28 PM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: [TenTec] omni d

A friend of mine n3dwb, recently purchased and omni d , he can receive on
30m
but can transmit, is there a mod for this
thanks ahead of time
73 john ku3g


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: g <gogogofrc@yahoo.com>
Subject: [TenTec] For sale = Corsair II, ps, all filters, etc.
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <20040430110549.21687.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

For sale - my beloved Corsair II with all three filters, model 961 power
supply/speaker, hand mike, extra model 1130 (I think) over voltage
protector, manual. Great audio and keying, low noise, as you know. Recently
sent back to Tentec for complete service. Looks great. My favorite 100w
radio ever. I had waited a long time to get this one, as I had loved the one
before, but I only turn it on a couple of hours a year. Will probably regret
selling it, and will get another some day, and not use it either.

$675 plus shipping. No trades.

tnx and 73

Bob Penneys N9GG
Sales Manager, Ham Radio Outlet, Delaware
Frankford Radio Club
Tennessee Contest Group


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 9:28:08 -0400
From: <k4dlj@bellsouth.net>
Subject: [TenTec] BPL
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID:
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I agree Richard/ALL. The money trail/investors/want to be elected officials
is where the pressure/education process should be applied in addition to the
current folk.
What appears very interesting is the simple fact that you can sit down the
road with a notebook and and receiver/decoder all which are readily
available and monitor what you neighbor, business or agency is doing on the
net. What security is this for the consumer.
Maybe TT should look into a BPL ready radio with upgradeable software. Looks
like a money maker to me.
Got to get back to writing letters....
73 de Dave K4DLJ



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