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Re: [TenTec] Filter weasels

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Filter weasels
From: "GARY HUBER" <glhuber@msn.com>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:09:20 -0600
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When I ordered my OMNI VI+ and traded my Paragon II, TT suggested that I remove 
all the optional filters (1.8khz, 500 Hz, and 250 Hz) for use in my new radio 
rather than buying new filters as they would not give credit for the old ones 
in the Paragon. 

When I sold my Omni-D (with filters) to a friend, I made sure he understood the 
price included the cost of all optional installed filters or that I would need 
to remove them for installation in my (then) new Corsair-II which I did later 
order with all filters installed.

Personally I don't see the issue as long as both sides of the transaction 
understand that installed optional filters add to the base cost of the radio. 
Its pretty straight forward, you want a narrow filter... pay for it!

Best regards,
Gary - AB9M
9679 Heron Bay Road
Bloomington,IL 61704
National Webmaster for:
The Society of the Fifth Division
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve N4LQ<mailto:n4lq@iglou.com> 
  To: tentec@contesting.com<mailto:tentec@contesting.com> 
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 6:33 AM
  Subject: Re: [TenTec] Filter weasels

  It's like this. TenTec (factory) removes all optional filters from their 
  used radios and sells the rig for X amount. That sets the base price for the 
  rig. Anyone advertising their rig for more than what the factory wants 
  (filters or no filters) would be hard pressed to get their money. So....the 
  weasely thing to do is remove them and sell them separately.
  Weaslism is contagious.

  Steve N4LQ
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Carter Grabarczyk" <k8vt@ameritech.net<mailto:k8vt@ameritech.net>>
  To: "Paul - W8KC" <w8kc@comcast.net<mailto:w8kc@comcast.net>>; 
  Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:22 AM
  Subject: [TenTec] Filters

  > Paul,
  > I am a bit confused by your statement below and maybe you can elaborate a 
  > bit....
  > You said:
  >>  Each of the three optional crystal filters easily sells for about $65
  >>  alone and a lot of weasels remove them from the rig to sell
  >>  separately.
  > By my calculator, it is "easily" $195 just for the three filters.
  > I've never sold a TenTec of any kind, with or without the filters, but 
  > your statement above puzzles me. I am not sure why you call the person a 
  > "weasel" for separating out the filters. If the radio you were referring 
  > to is at the $250  end of the range you were talking about, are you saying 
  > they should offer it as a package and sell it for $250 + $195= $445?
  > The thought comes to mind that someone may not want to pay that much for a 
  > radio that is worth only $250, filters or not. Or, they may already have 
  > some or all of the filters.
  > Or, are you implying the seller should just include almost $200 of filters 
  > as a "gift" because the radio was found with the filters in it?
  > I own an Omni 6+ loaded with filters. If I sell it to buy an Orion, do I 
  > raise the price of the radio way up to cover the cost of the filters, give 
  > them for free as a "gift" or risk being thought a "weasel" for offering 
  > them separately?
  > Sorry to call you on this, but I am not sure what you are suggesting or 
  > why the seller would be a weasel for offering the filters separately.
  > 73,
  > Carter
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