The Orion command set is actually quite complete. There are only a few
things you cannot do from the serial port. There are no user1 to user4
commands and there are no rx and tx equalization commands. Everything else
Carl Moreschi N4PY
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Green WC1M" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <email@example.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] should I buy a FT-1000D
> Very amusing. I own an Orion and a 1000D, which I use for SO2R contesting.
> They make a great pair. I tend to use the Orion as my main rig for running
> and the 1000D for S&P, but have just added INRAD's roofing filter to the
> 1000D and expect to use it for running more often. While the Orion will
> still be superior, the 1000D is a pretty close second. Much of what you
> about the 1000D is correct, and I realize there's tongue-in-cheek here,
> a few bits of misinformation/exaggeration should be corrected:
> 1. You don't have to find a control voltage in the radio to run a pin
> QSK amp. The TX OUT pin on the Band Data socket works nicely with my Alpha
> 2. My 87A is quite sensitive to overshoot but has never had a problem with
> my 1000D. When I had a TS-950SDX it was a different story.
> 3. The aftermarket tuning enhancement was inexpensive and simple to
> You didn't have to completely dismantle the radio.
> 4. The receiver is not noisy compared with the Orion. In fact, I usually
> have to bump the AGC threshold or reduce the RF gain in the Orion to make
> as quiet as the 1000D.
> 5. You don't have to spend $100 for computer control. Several aftermarket
> alternatives are available in the $25 range, or you can make your own for
> about five bucks.
> 6. Although the Yaesu computer control protocol leaves a lot to be
> the Orion protocol is very limited in the number of functions it can
> and statuses it can provide.
> 7. In operation, the lack of a screen isn't necessarily a drawback. I
> think of any information I get from the Orion screen that I can't get from
> the Yaesu display or panel lights. The screen is very nice for
> configuration, but that's a seldom-used task in my station.
> 8. Quite an exaggeration for an Orion owner to call a 1000D experimental.
> The pot calls the kettle black?
> Don't get me wrong -- I love my Orion, but I'm very fond of my 1000D too!
> 73, Dick WC1M
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee Crocker [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 10:31 AM
> > To: email@example.com
> > Subject: [TenTec] should I buy a FT-1000D
> > I have been thinking about buying a FT-1000D. It is a
> > firmware defined radio. To update the firmware you
> > have to send it back to Yaesu. It is no longer in
> > production, so I guess there won't be any updates
> > coming out soon. The transmitter is pretty good, but
> > it has a key click problem that Yaesu hasn't been able
> > to figure out for 15 years. There is an aftermarket
> > fix, but if you implement it, it destroys the QSK of
> > the radio. It has a noise blanker that is basically
> > on all the time. It was poorly designed and degrades
> > the IMD performance of the radio, and to fix that you
> > have to go in and rewire the noise blanker control
> > circuit. You have to add several components for each
> > of these fixes. In order to run a pin diode QSK amp
> > with this rig you have to go in and find the correct
> > control voltage in the radio. You have to isolate
> > this with a breakout box. If you use the stock
> > control line you will hot switch the diodes.
> > The radio puts out 200W but I always worry that it
> > might blow out the grid in my 8877 due to overshoot.
> > A lot of contesters and DXers use this rig. There is
> > no real control over the AGC just a couple of
> > positions and off. In fact there isn't a lot of
> > control over a lot of things. You have to go into a
> > little hatch in the top of the rig to set up things
> > like vox and keyer and such as that. Makes it hard to
> > put stuff on top of the radio. It would be nice of
> > you could change this stuff in a menu.
> > The receiver is pretty good, though it has no DSP and
> > the notch is manual. If you want auto notch you have
> > to spend a couple hundred extra for something after
> > market, and then the notch is no longer in the AGC
> > line. There is no DSP. It needs a boatload of
> > filters to make the receiver better, and they tend to
> > ring. The tuning rate is lousy it makes the radio
> > hard to tune. Maybe they will fix this in a firmware
> > release, but then to upgrade the firmware you have to
> > send the radio back to Yaesu and pay for that. There
> > was an after market fix for this but you had to
> > completely dismantle the radio to install it. The
> > receiver is decidedly noisy compared to let's say a
> > ten tec Paragon or a Pegasus or an Orion. It has
> > receiver characteristics in the upper third of the
> > pack but it is not top dog by any stretch of the
> > imagination. There was a pin diode upgrade you could
> > get by sending the radio back to Yaesu. It really
> > didn't do anything for performance but it did lighten
> > your wallet. Did I mention this is a $4000 radio?
> > Computer control is optional for another $100 but the
> > control is minimal, certainly nothing like the Orion.
> > It doesn't have a screen either, B&W or Color, but it
> > does have a nice florescent display, even though
> > that's 30 year old technology.
> > I just want a radio I can plug a mic into and an
> > antenna and a ground and talk for my $4000 dollars.
> > Even though this radio has been out for 15 years it
> > still seems kind of experimental since you have to
> > make all these modifications to make it work
> > correctly. There have been some upgrades to the
> > series and every couple of years you can spend a few
> > more thousand for a different box, but they have many
> > of the same problems. It's all so friggin'
> > experimental, but then there are a lot of them sold
> > and a lot of contests have been won with this radio.
> > I understand there is an 11,000 dollar version of this
> > radio around the corner, it apparently has a lot of
> > problems, maybe I'll wait for that, or maybe I'll wait
> > for the new firmware upgrade for that. Do I have to
> > send it back to Yaesu for the update?
> > I never had these problems with my old Icom 735 but
> > the receiver in that radio was a disaster, and my old
> > friend the Puke of Paducah W4MPE when I talked to him
> > down on 3895 in the old days, used to tell me that
> > Icom radio was a "Tank Radio" which made me feel bad.
> > He always used that Ten Tec stuff.
> > So what do I do? Do I wait for a new ROM to be
> > released.... or do I wait for them to fix all the
> > bugs... or do I plunk down my $4000 for this out of
> > date radio? Do I wait for the $11,000 disaster? I
> > dunno it sure has a lot of buttons... and the screen
> > is in Technicolor... and it puts out 400W... wonder
> > if that would bother my 8877.... Maybe I'll ask a
> > few guys on the reflector who don't own one of these
> > radios what they think...
> > 73 W9OY
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