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Re: [TenTec] "Being a Contrarian . . ."

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] "Being a Contrarian . . ."
From: Tommy <aldermant@alltel.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 20:28:18 -0400
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Dear (happy) Orion owners,

Enough already...please! So you operate SSB and you have spent your 
4000+ bucks and YOU have the best radio...that is wonderful and you 
should be proud. It is TRUE that a ham's BEST radio is the one they 
HAVE on their desk...otherwise they would be pretty dumb to keep it...???

When the ARRL evaluates other radios, you gush and rush to quickly 
quote comparison receiver test results to your Orion...and you think 
the ARRL lab test are wonderful (and they ARE!). But now that the 
ARRL doesn't flow with glowing words about the radio you laid out 
your 4000+ bucks for, suddenly the ARRL sucks? NOT!!

The facts are that the Orion never has and quite possibly never will, 
live up to the specifications Ten Tec published...that is a FACT! I 
can say that because I owned one for 20 months, complained like heck 
because it would not run full QSK, with their own amplifier, in the 
keying loop. And got my fanny chewed out on this reflector as one who 
'was trying to destroy Ten Tec'. I was a contributing member of the 
beta test group and that sad experience convinced me that Ten Tec 
would never get the firmware corrected. It wasn't back then and it 
isn't today...but at least you have a color screen, which I'm sure 
helps make the Orion a better operating radio. What happened to the 
Orion beta test group? Well of course they found so many firmware 
bugs and begged and pleaded for Ten Tec to address them, that Ten 
Tec, in their wisdom (?) finally dropped the entire group. Now you 
guys are Ten Tec's beta test group for Orions firmware...are you 
having fun yet?

Yes, the Orion is a good radio and it's Ten Tec's first steps to join 
the rest of the ham radio manufacturers  who build a SSB radio that 
just happens to ALMOST operate CW.

Relax...breath deeply...just because the ARRL's QST review is telling 
the truth, does not mean your are not intelligent folks.

Tom - W4BQF

At Monday 07:43 PM 7/31/2006, you wrote:
>The Orion is a good radio, period.  It's a dream of a U.S. company...
>designed by and built by a U.S. company and serviced by a U.S. company.
>It's a good radio period.. I said that already.
>The band scope I once thought was a gimmick ... isn't.  It's good and with
>my first production Orion, up-dated to the latest radio with V-2.055 NEVER
>fails to work and well.  It's on full time and I'm active.
>Other radios are also good and in the final analysis it's 'what feels good
>on the desk'.  The ARRLis not going to please everyone.. me included all the
>time.  The first purpose for the ARRL in my judgment is to help protect our
>frequencies and all the other is fluff.  I'm talking about the DXCC,
>membership services, SK, articles to keep our minds from turning to mush,
>VEC leadership, on and on.  BUT they need to pay the bills and that means to
>sell ads for the publications.  This means JA resources.
>I believe it's a very hard balancing act for them to appease everyone who
>pays the bills and frankly I dislike their leaning at times.  As smarter
>folks have said before me.. follow the money and this is not Ten-Tec in
>advertising when the playing field clearly tilts to the west.
>Remember too that the reviews are prepared by technical folks and many of
>them simply can't express themselves while being experts in the technical
>aspects of equipment and the review of equipment.  This may be some of 'our'
>Did they lie?  Did they tell the full story?  Did they slant it one way or
>the other?   They were just humans working to pay to fill the gas tank, heat
>the house, and well... just being human.  Did leadership at the ARRL vote..
>you bet they did.
>I disliked some of the review while other parts were okay.  We on this
>reflector know the answers already don't we?  We really just want anyone to
>confirm what we know.  I do, and when they don't.. woe be them.  Let's just
>pick up the pieces and march on knowing we DO HAVE the best radio, by a U.
>S. company, with some issues to be addressed.  Hell, with these issues, it's
>still the best radio.  When did Yaesu, Icom and not sure about Kenwood start
>talking about roofing filters?  You got it.. when OUR Orion hit the street.
>Just be happy, enjoy and rise above.    73, Lynn W4NL
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <K4IA@aol.com>
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] "Being a Contrarian . . ."
> >I thought the QST article was really unfair.  Most QST reviews are so
> > gooey-gushy positive you have to read between the lines to get a hint of
> > the  truth.
> > This article was out of character in that it emphasized the  negative and
> > sniped about a lot of picky issues. You had to read between  the lines to
> > get to
> > the truth but the overall feeling was very negative.
> >
> > Why did they need to devote two paragraphs to a software issue that had
> > already been fixed?
> >
> > Why the comment about "No hint of ALC function or measurement?"  As
> > someone
> > else posted, "Did TT forget to install the LED?"  Obviously  not.
> >
> > I don't agree that the sweep has no practical value.  I find it  very
> > useful.
> > The metering is as good as any I have seen.  Who relies  on the S meter
> > anyway?  It is all relative.
> >
> > Complaints about the multi-knob are matched by complaints about the 98
> > buttons on the YaeComWoods.  In other words, "You can't win."
> >
> > I like my Orion.  I would recommend it to anyone.  I don't like  the NR
> > after
> > 1.371 but that's my tough luck.  Maybe it will get  fixed.  In the
> > meantime,
> > I'm enjoying the radio.  I read all QST  reviews with a large bucket of
> > salt.
> > Suggest others do the  same.
> >
> > k4ia
> > Craig  "Buck"
> > Fredericksburg, Virginia USA
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