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Re: [TenTec] settings for PR40, W2IHY, Orion I,and V2 firmware - FYI

To: "'Ron Castro'" <ronc@sonic.net>,"'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] settings for PR40, W2IHY, Orion I,and V2 firmware - FYI
From: "Kirk" <kirk.harding@cox.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:54:22 -0500
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Ron,

I'm not familiar with the TenTec net.  Where is it located?

Kirk, K6KAR

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Ron Castro
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] settings for PR40, W2IHY, Orion I,and V2 firmware -
FYI

Kirk:  I had to chime in since what you're describing is exactly what I'm 
using.  The PR40 sound great on the O2 with nothing in between and all the 
settings flat.  Adding the 8-Band and EQPlus gives the ability to quiet down

a noisy shack, give some additional robustness to the audio, and to quickly 
change the audio from 'arm-chair copy rag-chew mode' to 'massive DX pile-up'

mode.

If you get a chance and if band condx are reasonable, look for me on the Ten

Tec net tomorrow afternoon.

Ron N6AHA


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk" <kirk.harding@cox.net>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] settings for PR40, W2IHY, Orion I,and V2 firmware - 
FYI


> Mark,
>
> I have just received my new TenTec OrionII and going through the feature
> learning curve. Also, I've just ordered the Heil PR-40 (haven't yet 
> received
> it.  It will be here 9 August).  If you weren't using your EQPLUS, what 
> are
> your recommended Orion TX audio settings?  Based upon your experience with
> the W2IHY EQPLUS:  would you buy one again?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kirk, K6KAR
> Niceville, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Mark DeBord
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:08 PM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] settings for PR40, W2IHY, Orion I, and V2 firmware - FYI
>
> I did not get a specific response from anyone who is using my same audio
> set-up on the Orion Classic.  Again, my current audio chain is a Heil 
> PR-40,
>
> W2IHY 8 band equalizer, and the W2IHY EQPLUS.
>
> I am no audio expert; this is all new to me, but I am having fun and 
> wanted
> to pass along my learnings (so far). I found a way to "visually" see my
> audio adjustments on a graph by comparison.
>
> Months ago, I had installed the latest firmware (V2.056) on the Orion
> Classic, but discovered the audio properties had changed some and really 
> did
>
> not have a good way of re-adjusting my audio properties. So I went back to
> the older firmware (V1.37xxxx), since it works well for my operating 
> style
> (with only a few glitches ever once in awhile when using the scope in
> conjunction with BW, etc).
>
> A few months ago, I came across a Drake R8B receiver and tried to adjust 
> my
> audio that way, but again  was not successful because I could not adjust 
> my
> properties using headphones. I needed some way to  measure my voice 
> pattern
> with the old software, then make the V2 software match with adjustments of
> the W2IHY equipment.
>
> I had bought a copy of the Hamalyzer software several months ago too, and
> decided to hook up the Drake to  my soundcard to do trace comparisons. I
> first made a plot with the V1 firmware and saved it. Next, I  loaded the 
> V2
> firmware and made a plot. As indicated by other folks on the list that has
> done some  V1 to V2 comparisons, you can clearly see that the low end was
> gone, but the upper end was not as different.
>
> So as it turned out, I was able to match the patterns pretty darn close.
> (BTW, I used the same text when doing the comparisons so the plots will
> reflect the same voice pattern for the same series of sentences).
>
> Recordings and playbacks  on the computer reveal the "sound" is identical.
> As a matter of fact, I have gotten great unsolicited audio reports  from 
> my
> "local" friends as well as comments from DX (I use the same settings for 
> rag
>
> chewing and DX).
>
> I just wanted to pass along my settings, so this might help someone else 
> who
>
> does a search on the  archive with a similar set-up. BTW, my best friend
> bought an Orion Classic the same time that I did,  runs V2 firmware, and
> uses a Studio One mic. He does not have the W2IHY equipment, but his audio
> sounds great. We just had to turn things down (compared to V1).
>
> I know there are many posts concerning this very issue and I do not wish 
> to
> rehash old stuff; this  post is intended to be a guideline to help others
> who have struggled with this or who might need some ballpark settings to
> start them out as they "fine tune" their particular situation. The 
> greatest
> thing about V2 is that is has been VERY stable (so far); and I did not 
> have
> to give up my audio!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Orion I settings:
>
> TX Filter BW - 3000
> L.F. Rolloff - 50
> Mic gain - 20
> SP - off
>
> W2IHY 8 band Equalizer settings
>
> 50 - (12)
> 100 - (4)
> 200 - (- 10)
> 400 - (- 10)
> 800 - (- 10)
> 1600 - (0)
> 2400 - (10)
> 3200 - (16)
> (I also use the noise gate)
>
> W2IHY EQPlus
>
> no additional bass/treble - leave it off
>
> comp - 10 o'clock
> downward expander - your own setting according to your background
> effects delay - 9 o'clock
> effects level - 2 o'clock
> effects switch 2
>
>
>
> Thanks and I hope this helps someone else. As you know, your voice, your 
> own
>
> liking, etc. will cause you to need to change these settings, but at least
> this is somewhere to start.
>
> 73's
> Mark KA4ICK
> Kingsport, TN
>
>
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