John, you are funny. It is guys like you that make it very hard for Ten Tec. In
2003 my wife bought me a new Chevy Impala. The mileage now must be very close
to 100,000 and the car runs like and looks like it is brand new. The first set
of tires and brake pads along with rotors lasted till 90,000. Why would I want
a software upgrade? All I have done all these years is to change the oil and
check the tire pressure! You are talking like an engineer! ROTFL very hard.
Paul Gates, KD3JF
<still satisfied with my Delta.
Elecraft K1, KX1.
John <email@example.com> wrote: Hi Bernie....
We are clearly all entitled to our opinions. I am glad you are a happy
customer. I don't dislike my Orion, I just want it continually improved
upon as promised UP FRONT. I missed the part about "when it fits into our
business plan". I expected fairly routine updates. I note that the latest
firmware update for the Orion v1 was Dec 04, and v2 in May 07. The latest
Orion II firmware update was made in May 07. Not quite what I expected from
the promise to keep my radio upgraded. I guess this is one reason why I
feel their overall customer service level has changed and that they may have
decided no additional updates are going to be made (or even possible). The
concept wasn't just to fix bugs....but to improve upon even the good stuff.
Enough from me........I'd have to buy another spool of "thread"....pun
73 to all.......John K4NP
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten-Tec commitment to customers...
> This whole discussion is interesting to me.
> There seems to be a number (however small or large) of users who suggest:
> 1) Ten-Tec is close to abandoning its customers of some models ("If they
> not plan any additional revisions or upgrades, they should clearly state
> so."). My experience is anything but that, including my experience with
> for their older models. I'd love to have a "customer account software
> developer" to instantly incorporate every comment into revised software,
> but my
> sense is we are somewhere far from abandonment and (reasonably) far from
> instant gratification. I think the reason Ten-Tec hasn't "clearly
> stated...they do
> not plan any additional revisions or upgrades" is because they DO intend
> revise the code--when doing so is practical in their overall priorities,
> that's what they have said.
> 2) Ten-Tec no longer "loves or supports" their products. ("Ten-Tec is a
> tin-bending shop with a circuit designer talent pool that loved and
> their products until they became a
> software company and started to struggle [underlining mine].") I just
> buy that. I have been helped with answers to lots of questions regarding
> old Ten-Tec stuff and new. I will add, I have been using my Orion II for
> to a year, and have had no reason to look for support. I think I am a
> fairly heavy (weekend) multi-mode user, and have had no reason to ask for
> a code
> revision. I am still running the software that came with the box (2.037j)
> and have never encountered a bug in CW, SSB, PSK, AFSK-RTTY, FSK-RTTY, FM,
> or Slow Scan. My XYL, six harmonics (and grandkids) will attest that I am
> finicky (she calls me OC, and I love the TV program "Monk"), so I am not
> about reporting bugs; I just haven't had one! I guess the hottest topic
> has been audio quality. Well, with the right AGC settings, I am
> with the audio in CW, AM, FM, and SSB, so I am at a loss to understand
> issues. I'll admit I may be missing something, but I don't know what it
> 3) They have lost product focus ("They lost product focus and may have a
> shot at survival with the OMNI VII if..."). I don't see it with Ten-Tec,
> but I
> think I do with Kenwood, Yaesu, and Icom. Their products seem to have
> short life cycles, and support is problematic once the products are
> Ten-Tec's product roadmap has been pretty clean in my eye. In the past
> decade or so: Omni VI+, Pegasus Jupiter, Orion, Orion II, Omni VII. I
> that's been pretty focused. (I would guess they might have put off
> the Orion until it could have been what the Orion II is today, but we can
> debate the "Wait for the better before you release" discussion every
> company has.)
> I am not a sunshine pumper by habit, and I think I know when I see poor
> support for hardware, software, or services. I have not seen it with
> Bernie Skoch
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