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Re: [TenTec] 9420 Power Supply - Update

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] 9420 Power Supply - Update
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@storm.weather.net>
Reply-to: geraldj@storm.weather.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:26:06 -0600
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On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 22:44 -0500, Tom Macon wrote:
> Thank you to all those who have responded - I certainly appreciate it.  
> Here's some general comments in response to suggestions that I've received.
> 
> I normally run the Omni on a 961 supply that I picked up a couple years ago.  
>  When I started having Herc problems, I tried putting the Omni back on the 
> 9420 and found that it no longer worked, as I described in the original post.
> 
> Here's a little more detail on the voltage trip problem.  When the Herc is 
> switched on, the Overload light comes on immediately and the relays for the 4 
> supplies do not stay closed.  The overload light and VCC fade away after 4-5 
> seconds as the caps discharge.  The over-voltage SCR on the Herc's 
> distribution board remains tripped (since it's powered by the always-on 
> supply) but since the Overload light is powered by the switched voltage, it 
> does not stay on.
> 
> The voltage trip problem started with occasional trips while I was talking.  
> They became more and more frequent, and now it does it almost every time I 
> switch on the Herc. I'm guessing one of the supplies is going unstable, but 
> so far haven't been able to tell which one.  
> 
> With a digital scope, I have succeeded in capturing a momentary spike of 
> about 20v on the switched voltage line that occurs at switch-on.  It seems to 
> decay toward the normal supply voltage but, since the whole thing shuts down, 
> it's hard to tell.  I wish I could scope the voltage of each p.s. while the 
> Herc is running but I can't if it won't stay on.  I think testing the 
> individual supplies is the next step - I just gotta figure out a suitable way 
> to do it.
> 
> TU again for your help!
> 
>  - Tom, K9BTQ

Sounds to me like you have a melted pass transistor. Standard supply
failure mode and why there is a crowbar. Check the resistances from
collector to emitter. One will be very low.

Can't say it couldn't be a driver transistor or a control IC, but the
pass transistors are the most prone to failure because they run hottest.

73, Jerry, K0CQ

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