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Re: [TenTec] Corsair II buzz

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Corsair II buzz
From: "Gary Hoffman" <ghoffman@spacetech.com>
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Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 21:50:18 -0400
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Hmmm....in our neighborhood we certainly have nothing remotely like a 240 v 
delta system serving residences, being center tapped and all as mentioned 

What we have are moderately high voltage lines - on my street they are at 
like 3400 volts, phase to phase.  While three phases are available, only two 
are run down my street, because that is all they need for our low power use.

Local transformers, that service a couple of houses each, pick off power 
from these two primary phases, and produce a center tapped 240 V AC 

If there were a buzz around here, it sure would not be due to the source 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Brown" <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
To: <Gary@doctorgary.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Corsair II buzz

> Gary Smith wrote:
>> Thanks
>> I have noticed the "buzz" on several different power supplies
>> including a deep cycle battery. It's definitely not a hum but sounds
>> like something with odd harmonics, a definite buzz.
> The most common source of "buzz" consists of "triplen" harmonics of the
> AC power line, coupled  from the  3-phase  power line that is probably
> providing your residential service.  See my recommendations for bonding
> together the gear in your station to kill this noise. Triplen harmonics
> are harmonics whose orders are divisible by three -- 180 Hz, 360 Hz, 540
> Hz, and so on.
> http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf   and
> http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf
> The first one is a tutorial in text form that covers a lot of material,
> including this. The second is a Power Point that covers much of the same
> material.
> My solutions are very simple and inexpensive, and don't involve going
> inside the radio.
> These harmonics are produced in power systems by current flowing at the
> peak of the cycle to charge the input filter capacitors in electronic
> power supplies (both linear and switchers).  Most current cancels in the
> neutral (and in the green wires) of 3-phase systems, but triplen
> harmonics add. So-called "high leg Delta" power distribution is widely
> used in neighborhoods where a few small users need 3-phase but most need
> 120/240V. It's a 240V Delta, but with one side being center-tapped to
> feed residences. This triplen current is the source of what we call
> "ground buzz." It's there because there's no neutral feed to those
> 3-phase users, so all their triplen current goes to ground in the
> neutral for residences!
> This is yet another reason why it's a very good thing to bond all
> grounds together (the most important being lightning). To learn more see
> the tutorials.
> 73,
> Jim Brown K9YC
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