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To: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety
From: "DAVID HELLER" <dtx@verizon.net>
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Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:04:42 -0500
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Ron, you weren't at the Doylestown trial.  It turned into a circus at the 
expense of Danhurst.  Ask WR for the message I sent to him only.

Penn Wireless still going strong - very few there you'd remember. Mainly Ben 
Johns K3JQH and me. TX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Castro" <ronc@sonic.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety


>I think this is what you're looking for:
>
> http://www.antennazoning.com/attachments/61_Afflerbach_v_McManus_PA_CCR.pdf
>
> I grew up right next to Fairless Hills in Levittown and knew Dave Heller
> since we were members of the same radio club, the Penn Wireless Assn!
>
>            Ron  N6IE
>       www.N6IE.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety
>
>
>> Out of idle curiosity, I forwarded Dave's comment about the case "right
>> close to home" to my lawyer, Mike K3AIR, to see why there'd be a problem
>> with a precedent.  Mike had the following to say:
>>
>> "If it's the case I'm thinking of, it is a Common Pleas court decision
>> from
>> one of the eastern PA counties.  It essentially said that the CC&Rs could
>> not be used to prohibit amateur antennas because of the public service
>> hams
>> do (the ham involved was a MARS operator who ran lots of phone patches
>> from
>> overseas military personnel).
>>
>> The problem is that Common Pleas cases have no precedential value outside
>> the county they're decided in and can't be relied on (even though I have
>> gotten away with it on some other issues by arguing that even though they
>> are not precedent, they are persuasive)."
>>
>> And don't worry, I am compensating Mike for his time.  It looks like
>> tomorrow evening will be a good time to light the grill up... while he's
>> also helping me work some DX on the Corsair during the contest this
>> weekend!
>>
>> 73, ron w3wn
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com 
>> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of DAVID HELLER
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 11:31 AM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety
>>
>> I really enjoyed that part.  Of course my fee was a bit higher for days
>> spent in court (very enjoyable!) and I like to dictate the questions to
>> the
>> opposing lawyer for his cross - and most would fall for it.  The best
>> invariably was a cross question  not quite related to the case at hand
>> which
>>
>> was so easy to answer: "Sorry, that's out of my expertise and I'm not
>> qualified to answer."  And the judge breaking in telling him to stop
>> wasting
>>
>> time and keep it relevant.  What's nicer than having his honor on your
>> side!
>>
>> The best I ever had was actually right close to home on an amateur radio
>> antenna/zoning case (no charge of course) with K3DSF vs U.S.Steel.  Two 
>> of
>> us were :Pete's expert witnesses, myself and K3BNS, now W3BE, who
>> subsequently became FCC's head of  personal (Amateur and CB) in DC, and
>> until recently QCWA president. Story is fairly long - maybe another time
>> here.  But the case - l963 +/- is well known to ARRL, and I don't know 
>> why
>> it hasn't set a precedent for the covenant restriction crap.  But I'm no
>> lawyer, so what do I know.    Dave, K3TX
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Carter" <k8vt@ameritech.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 7:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Electric safety
>>
>>
>>> DAVID HELLER wrote:
>>>
>>>>  The real fun came from the cases where some lawyer thought he could
>>>>  show me up on cross-examination.  Not once did the lawyer win.
>>>
>>> Been there, done that!
>>>
>>> I was the forensic expert for a large telcom and spent my share of time
>>> in court...and no, not once did the opposing lawyer win. They all mostly
>>> seem to have forgotten the lawyer's Golden Rule of never asking a
>>> question to which they don't know the answer.   :-)
>>>
>>> Carter  K8VT
>>>
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