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Re: [TenTec] Re. [Ten Tec] Grounds and balanced fed verticals

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Re. [Ten Tec] Grounds and balanced fed verticals
From: Steve Hunt <steve@karinya.net>
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Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:34:27 +0000
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In a typical coax line, the dielectric losses don't exceed the copper 
losses until you get above 1GHz. At HF line losses are overwhelmingly 
copper losses, and dielectric losses can safely be ignored. Do the sums 
or take a look at the chart here:

As Jim said, the lower matched-loss of twin lead is down to its higher 
characteristic impedance (hence lower current) and, possibly, larger 
conductor diameter. Commercial window line doesn't have a particularly 
large conductor - you can make lower-loss line yourself simply by using 
thicker wire. Also, if it's open-wire line, it wont suffer anything like 
the increase in loss when wet that the commercial window line does.

Steve G3TXQ

On 26/01/2012 13:21, Carl Moreschi wrote:
> Loss due to dielectric loss tangent (tan) can be very important.
> This term is proportional to frequency, so the higher you go, the
> more likely it will dominate overall loss (metal loss is only
> proportional to SQRT of frequency).
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