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Re: [TenTec] Centurion Amp. Problem

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Centurion Amp. Problem
From: Bry Carling <bcarling@cfl.rr.com>
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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 06:20:42 -0800
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Did you ever figure out what it is on the QSK board that was blowing the 20 A 
fuses?

Best regards - Bry Carling



> On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:18 PM, "Donald, K6RV" <K6RV@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> I have been following this thread with interest because I too have a 
> Centurion 422.  Mine is Serial # 03A10058.  Using Ten-Tec's code for Serial 
> numbers:  Mine was built in March, Production Run 1, Unit 005, in 1998.
> 
> One of the interesting things about this thread to me is that I had a problem 
> a year or so ago with my Centurion with the same symptoms. Turns out the 
> problem was NOT the transformer, but was a bad QSK Board (81542).  When the 
> problem first occurred, I called Ten-Tec's Service Dept.,
> (865) 453-7172, and talked to Gary Green, W4CJX, who is the Guru of all old 
> things Ten-Tec.  He said immediately the problem was the QSK board which 
> apparently is a common problem - they even have a "kit" of parts to send out 
> to repair it.  I replaced the parts and problem solved.  You may find Bry, 
> that when your new transformer comes back, you still have a problem, and if 
> so, check the QSK Board.  If you read what the QSK board does, it provides 
> voltage and switching for the control circuits.  Not saying you did not 
> diagnose correctly, but you may find an additional problem with that board.
> 
> My high voltage comes on instantly, by the way, as Bob said, with the Main on 
> switch and not with the Standby/Operate switch
> 
> I cannot say enough for the guys at Ten-Tec Service - especially Gary, and 
> the Manager, Paul Clinton - and how helpful they are on the phone.  When ever 
> I have had a problem with any of my Ten-Tec equipment, I have called them 
> first, and 9 out of 10 times, they diagnose, and tell me what to fix or look 
> for.  Example:  My OMNI V lost the display - it went dark.  I was in a sweat 
> because the fluorescent display is not available anymore.  Called and talked 
> to Gary, and he immediately said go over to the radio and pull out the 
> display driver board plug slightly (it sits behind the display board and 
> plugs into it).  I did, and, voila', the display worked perfectly.  Turns out 
> the pins were made too long on the plug and when plugged in all the way, 
> short out some of the tube display circuitry.  Unbelievable !  Without that 
> phone call I would have chased my tail forever trying to find the problem.  
> My point is, whenever you have any problem with a Ten-Tec radio - call 
> Service and ask for their help.
> 
> Good luck, Bry, with your Centurion.
> 
> 73, Donald K6RV
> 
>> Message: 13 Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2014 22:31:58 -0500 From: "Bry Carling" 
>> <bcarling@cfl.rr.com>
> Thanks guys, It does appear that I was partly mistaken about how the soft 
> start circuit works with the three relays. Power is indeed applied to the 
> transformer whenever AC Power switch is turned on and the interlock is closed 
> and the 12V is applied. I think this amp has some quite a complex circuits. 
> it is a device that I had not studied at all before. Having so many 
> interacting PC boards, I may have misunderstood the sequence at turn on for 
> the two main switches. I hope that I have enough smarts left in me to figure 
> this out carefully, and understand what is going on when the HV transformer 
> gets back to me in a few weeks from Gary Brown. I will leave no stone 
> unturned in checking all of the diodes, caps, transistors etc. before I start 
> getting ready to apply any power. What I do know is that the 12V supply 
> works, the filaments and pilot lamps light up when they should. HV 
> Transformer had an intact secondary. One primary shorted. When the 
> transformer gets back to me rewound, I plan to start it up on 120V at first, 
> as one peson suggested and make sure I can get at least 800V or so of HT 
> before proceeding further. Again huge thanks to everyone (including Robb) who 
> has made efforts to guide me in this troubleshooting and repair. You guys' 
> knowledge and experience are a huge help for somoene looking at this for the 
> first time and pondering what the heck goes on in this wonderful box of 
> tricks!
> 
> 73 from AF4K Bry
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