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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please Ten Tec!
From: Paul Gentry <phgentry@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2014 14:15:44 -0400
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My take on the Paragon II:  I currently use a Paragon II on 40 meters and
love it for general use.  I love it's simplicity and filtering but in a
contest I would let it rest and go back to my 940.

*Paul k4BWG*
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Wade Staggs <tvman1954@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Good Morning,*
> *                               While the Corsair and Corsair II are fine
> radio's. If you really want to split hairs, my Paragon ( 585 ) has
> everything they have, plus very accurate ( no drift at all ) frequency
> control.  Don't believe me? Just find someone who owns one and sit down in
> front of the rig. Now engage the 20 Db. pad and turn the RF Gain back just
> a little bit. ( this is on the low bands ) It just seems like a different
> world. And while I am posting. Why did the Paragon and Paragon II have
> relatively short production runs? I know about the Dreaded ... PLL Out of
> Lock ... problem with the 585 but once fixed, they are such Great Radio's.
> Mine was acquired while broken but a thorough re-work of the Major and
> Minor Loop Boards has turned it into a real Keeper. Almost 6 years now with
> no failures or issues of any kind. Although about 6 months back we did
> replace all capacitors in the PA enclosure. So, in summary, has anyone used
> a Paragon ( 585 ) lately ? ? ? And who wants to trade their broken one for
> something else?  All input about the Paragons receiver appreciated.........
> The Transmitter is Awesome also.*
>
> *
>          73 from Wade/KJ4WS*
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@dj0ip.de>
> wrote:
>
> > As nice as its audio was, the KWM-2 would not be very good with today's
> > crowded bands.
> > The famous "Collins mechanical filter" was not really very good by
> today's
> > standards.
> > A 4-pole crystal filter on 455 kHz is as good or better and of course you
> > can buy 6 or 8 pole filters now.
> > And the DSP filters on lower frequencies are even better, sharper, and
> have
> > steeper skirts.
> >
> > As long as we're dreaming, I wish I had 1960's band conditions again!
> >
> > All things considered, it's hard to beat the Corsair with its combination
> > of
> > good audio and good crystal filters.
> > Newer radios have better filters but worse audio.
> >
> > For my money, the best compromise is the Eagle.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Martin
> > Sole
> > (HS0ZED)
> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 11:37 AM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please Ten
> > Tec!
> >
> > I've long liked the analogue radio sound. So far my all time fave, just
> for
> > the audio, is a KWM2 with that big 6x4 speaker, something about that warm
> > sound seems magical. Next up from my current radios would be my Omni V.
> Not
> > sure how that might differ from the Corsair but whilst generally pleasant
> > it's not in the KWM2 league. Then the Orion 565 and Elecraft K3, bit of a
> > mixed bag these two as they are both very variable but I've not yet been
> > able to recreate the analogue sound. I might need to experiment with
> > amplifiers right at the point the signal becomes analogue. A god analogue
> > audio amp with LTP input and complementary pair output in discrete
> silicon
> > feeding a big speaker, might sound very different.
> >
> > The TS940 had good audio too but for me about the same as the Omni V
> >
> > Martin, HS0ZED
> >
> >
> > On 02/10/2014 12:03, Barry N1EU wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM, John Farler <k4avx1@windstream.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have a Corsair II with the DDS VFO, which works nicely.  I think
> > >> it's a single conversion though.
> > >
> > > Normally it converts to 9MHz, then to 6.3MHz, and then back to 9MHz,
> > > unless you bypass the 6.3MHz PBT i.f. which can be done fairly easily
> > > but you lose PBT and narrow filters and don't gain much.
> > >
> > > I agree on the CAT comment.  I always dreamed of adding a CAT port to
> > > the DDS cpu firmware.
> > >
> > > 73, Barry N1EU
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