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Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 20:14:35 -0500
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> From: Rick@DJ0IP.de
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:19:43 +0100
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28
> 
> Noise blankers come in two flavors:
> 1)  Hardware noise blankers
> 2)  Software (DSP) noise blankers
> 
> The older radios (OM6 and earlier) all had hardware blankers.
> So does the Eagle.
> The Omni VII and Orion have DSP noise blankers.
> 
> It is my understanding that the software blanker can potentially be
> implemented to work as well as the old hardware blankers, but in most
> radios, most of the OEMs did not do a good enough job of implementing it.
> I believe all of the Japanese OEMs and even Ten-Tec and Elecraft got it
> wrong, initially.
> 
> It was Rob (again) whose persistence in flagging this issue to the two
> American vendors, got them to re-think their NB and fix it.  I believe it
> was similar with FLEX but as I said, I'm getting old and don't recall if Rob
> was involved there or not.  I think he said he told Gerald.  
> 
> Unfortunately the Japanese OEMs don't listen to Rob as much as our US OEMs
> do.
> They don't seem to want to listen to anyone in the field.
> It took Yaesu nearly 10 years to implement W8JI's $3 fix to their CW keying
> issue that Bob was referring to.
> Their FT-1000s polluted our ham bands for 10 years.  Eventually most of the
> ones in the field got updated (privately), not by Yaesu.
> 
> It will be a tragedy if Ten-Tec goes under.  They have had an excellent
> track record of listening to field input.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of wes Bolin
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 7:59 PM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28
> 
> REF:  Noise and noise blankers
> 
> I have a Triton IV with the noise blanker.  It takes out pulse noise and
> also eliminated static electricity noise from my vertical antenna during
> stormy weather last week.
> 
> For atmospheric noise, and a neighbor's TV set noise, I use the ANC-4 Noise
> Reducer by Timewave.  It was recommended to me by another TenTec owner and
> it works great (I have a small outside antenna to pick up noise).  I have
> had many QSOs with the ANC-4 "on" that I would not have been able to without
> it.
> 
> Hope my experience will help others with similar problems.
> Wes
> 
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> >    1. Omni VI noise blanker (John King)
> >    2. Re: Omni VI noise blanker (Carl Moreschi)
> >    3. Re: Omni VI noise blanker (Richard Gerardi)
> >    4. Omni VI noise blanker (John King)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:50:53 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: John King <k5pgw@yahoo.com>
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Cc: "k5pgw@yahoo.com" <k5pgw@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI noise blanker
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> > I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec 
> > Omni Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO 
> > apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
> working.
> > Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:08:54 -0500
> > From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
> > To: John King <k5pgw@yahoo.com>,        Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> >         <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI noise blanker
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> > Depending on what type of noise, this can easily be normal.  Noise 
> > blankers only work on pulse noise like from an electric motor or 
> > electric fence.
> >
> > Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > 58 Hogwood Rd
> > Louisburg, NC 27549
> > www.n4py.com
> >
> > On 11/22/2015 10:50 AM, John King via TenTec wrote:
> > > I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec 
> > > Omni
> > Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO 
> > apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
> working.
> > Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 08:16:35 -0800
> > From: Richard Gerardi <qdot22@gmail.com>
> > To: n4py3@earthlink.net,        Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> >         <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Cc: John King <k5pgw@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI noise blanker
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> > There is no Noise Blanker button for the Omni VI. Just engage the 
> > feature more or less using the pot. If your pushing the button to the 
> > left of the NB/SQL your attenuating -20dB.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Rich
> > AA6VX
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Depending on what type of noise, this can easily be normal.  Noise 
> > > blankers only work on pulse noise like from an electric motor or 
> > > electric fence.
> > >
> > > Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > > 58 Hogwood Rd
> > > Louisburg, NC 27549
> > > www.n4py.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/22/2015 10:50 AM, John King via TenTec wrote:
> > >
> > >> I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec 
> > >> Omni Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO 
> > >> apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
> working.
> > >> Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
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> > --
> > Richard Gerardi, AA6VX
> > North Santa Barbara County ARES
> > Satellite Amateur Radio Club, W6AB
> > aa6vx@arrl.net
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:42:36 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: John King <k5pgw@yahoo.com>
> > To: "tentec@contesting.com" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI noise blanker
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> > ?Thanks Carl and Richie. ? I went to the shack and turned the Omni VI 
> > on and low and behold there was some impulse noise that sounds like an 
> > arc or electrical fence or sign and the blanker worked when advanced to
> the right.
> > It does not attenuate the 75 meter band noise or rapid line noise 
> > which is the S5 to S7 ambient noise there this morning. I think it is 
> > working on less rapid impulse noise. I will try the NR DSP button and 
> > see if that helps..
> > I have had this WONDEFUL Omni VI over 20 years and like it more 
> > everyday as compared to my three Icoms and Kenwood TS 2000. It is such 
> > an uncomplicated outstanding piece of gear. Its' simplicity and 
> > outstanding receiver are the greatest. I think I want another one. 73,
> John, K5PGW? ?
> >
> >
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