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Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)

To: wb5jnc@centurytel.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)
From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: n4py3@earthlink.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:00:04 -0500
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Don't overlook the possibility on an intermittent short in one of the 811's.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com

On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:
Joe,

Just an ohms check may not be enough. You may be dealing with an intermittent
breakdown under high voltage. A "hi-pot" (high potential) test with an
insulation tester etc. would be the only way to know for sure. A winding
layer to adjacent layer partial short in the HV side could also account for
your symptoms, and might not be obvious because the winding resistance could
show right at the low edge of the manufacturer's spec. (I went through that
scenario years ago with a HV filter choke in a small AM BC transmitter.)

73 es GL, Al

On Tue January 26 2016 11:28:03 am Joe Papworth via TenTec wrote:
    Thanks Andy. Was it the HV secondary that shorted?


   I isolated the HV secondary from the HV board and it reads open to the
frame and chassis. (Reads about 45 ohms when connected to the board)


   Thanks, Joe, K8MP


  -----Original Message-----
  From: P C Andy Anderson&lt;xtraham58@hotmail.com&gt;
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  Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 11:52 am
  Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)




  Joe, I had a similar problem with my Centurion AMP.  It eventually failed
  completely. The secondary of the power transformer shorted to the frame. I
had the Xformer rewound at TRS.  BTW this transformer problem is a known.

  73' Andy, W3LI

  ________________________________________


  Tuesday noontime, Joe:

  I have a Centaur..............keep it covered when not in use.

  My Elmer told me to always keep it covered..................dust is the
  problem.

  Even when covered, open it up every two-three years and do a internal
  cleaning.

  N1MHC/alsirois
  =============



  Gents,


  Have any of you gone a few rounds with a Centaur amp?
  I have a one that blows fuses very intermittently. It vaporizes them both,
  simultaneously, so it's apparently a dead-short somewhere. This happens
even in stand-by. (i.e. No key-down)


  Before I tear into it, anyone have any ideas of common failures in these
  amps?


  Later, Joe, K8MP

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