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To: wb5jnc@centurytel.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Question to the group
From: Gary J FollettDukes HiFi <dukeshifi@comcast.net>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:13:24 -0500
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Antennas and tuners are fun. They are about the last bastion in which hams can 
still perform meaningful experiments and produce publishable results. 

Radios have simply gotten complex to the point at which everyday hams can no 
longer do much with them but plug them in and turn the knobs (or press the 
keys).

SMD’s and SDR’s only serve to take hams farther from being involved with their 
radios’s operational theory.

Antennas (and tuners), on the other hand, offer an opportunity for one to 
perform mathematical modeling to predict designs, optimize them, build them and 
finally test them.

Paul and Rick both have shown extensive knowledge, both in terms of modeling 
and practical construction. Their input is very valuable to this discussion.

I do not yet have the time to go into those aspects of antennas and tuners 
since I am still spending my time doing lab science on chemical sensors and 
flame detectors.

Therefore, my expressed opinions on the topic are based only upon my own 
practical experiences, some of those being over 40 years ago.

Thanks for an interesting discussion in which I received more than I gave.

I admit to having overstated the EFJ Matchbox in terms of being the “best 
ever”, but it is better than most I have seen lately, and t worked in every 
application in which I tried it. Plus, it never arced on me.

It’s kind of like a restaurant owner saying "Our restaurant has the best burger 
anywhere”. Really? Have they tried all of them and taken into account that 
different people have different preferences in burgers?

Gary

W0DVN

PS: Does anyone know why Ten ten chose to allow operation of the internal auto 
tuner in the Orion only on antenna 1 output? Everybody else seems to have 
figured out long ago how to do the antenna switching AFTER the tuner so that it 
would work on both antenna outputs.


PPS: The EFJ Matchbox was a  real pain to repair if the band switch seized up 
(which it frequently did). The level of disassembly required to remove the 
shaft from the switch, clean and lubricate it, was far disproportionate 
compared with other tuners. It is nice to see that Nye Viking carried this 
tradition forward with the MB5 VI series. What a masterpiece of design in terms 
of making parts nearly impossible to remove for repair! Add that to the fact 
that there were several designs for the directional coupler, only one of which 
was documented, and you have good reason to make parts mules out of some of 
them.



> On Jul 18, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Al Gulseth <wb5jnc@centurytel.net> wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Why the need for a rotating turret? Wouldn't switching taps accomplish the 
> same thing? Cliplead taps on the coil have been a staple of link coupled 
> systems since the early days of ham radio, and it seems to me that one could 
> locate the optimum taps for each band and then use relays to switch them. 
> Doing it that way shouldn't be any more complex than a typical autotuner is.
> 
> 73, Al
> 
> On Mon July 18 2016 6:47:02 am Paul Christensen wrote:
>> ...
>> A remote-controlled link tuner would by my Holy Grail, but the mechanical
>> complexities start getting in the way of improved efficiency.  To do it
>> right would require separate link coils moved on a rotating turret.
>> ...
>> 
>> Paul, W9AC
>> 
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